Twa 800

[9GClub]

A guy at my home field is an NTSB investigator, and for what it's worth, he mentioned something about sun reflection angles being perfectly conducive to illusory optical phenomena (i.e. a 'missile') at the time of the explosion. Wish I could remember the details, he explained it well. Granted he's biased.

If it was a missile, why would whoever shot it wait until the plane was at 13k'?

 

[Guitar rocker]

I knew this TWA cptn who had flown the 747 for years. He showed me the report whereby the employees of TWA hired an independent lab to conduct analysis of some of the parts recovered from the crash. This independent lab verified that there was a film of residue on parts of the aircraft that were consistent with that of a missle. I'm sure that anyone from TWA has a copy of this report.

 

[Flightjock30]

for the last time......IT WAS A MISSILE! This is a cold hard fact

 

[Gorilla]

I don't know... a difficult case.

EagleRJ, it is not that difficult for the military to keep a dark secret. Look at the Stealth program which was black for about a decade, even with thousands of participants. There are without a doubt dozens of black programs effectively kept secret today. The fact that this particular secret is "dirty" makes it less likely to be kept, but it is possible. The crew of a sub is not numerous, and a sub may be the source of the missile.

Training missiles normally do not have live warheads. Instead, they have telemetry packages. Without the warhead, the kill action would be kinetic, but with a direct hit, the plane will come down.

The lack of a warhead makes a lack of explosive warhead chemical residue obvious, but residue from the rocket motor, while faint, as the motor may have burnt out before impact, is possible. While kero is difficult to ignite, a red hot and possibly still burning rocket motor, traversing a partly filled 747 fuel tank, will set it off and possibly make it appear as if the tank self-ignited and exploded.

I am as patriotic as anyone. But if the U.S. Navy did it, they should come clean. Look at the Vincennes, Gulf of Tonkin, and the U.S.S Iowa. Gross mistakes/cover-ups, all.

Frankly, I'm surprised that there is a "hot" Navy range East of NYC at all, given the volume of traffic on the air and ocean surface.

 

[Flightjock30]

Frankly, I'm surprised that there is a "hot" Navy range East of NYC at all, given the volume of traffic on the air and ocean surface.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TWA_Flight_800 <----Scroll to the (highlighted in blue) #8 in the text and make sure your speakers are on. This is the Pakistan Airlines 747 conversation between ATC and them that night that took action to avoid a missile it saw streak just ahead of it from left to right. This made news! But it lasted only for a day or two.

 

[soarby007]

Sounds like a missle fired from the grassy knoll, or from area 51 by a government conspiracy.

 

[retired guy]

I feel sure it was a missle, but certainly not fired from a US Navy ship. 200 plus sailors, mostly of very junior rank...what are the chances that at least one of them telling someone. Anyone that thinks that a bunch of teen aged boys (and girls) could keep that kind of a secret doesn`t know (1) teenagers, or (2) sailors.

 

[simbo]

There is a good FICTION book out there called "Night Fall" by Nelson DeMille that has some interesting ideas about 800. It's a good book and a quick read.

 

[FN FAL]

Why is the accident investigation and the video recreation done by the freaking CIA!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! That's the real question!

Central Inteligence Agency - they've been pulling the wool over the eyes of the American people for 3/4 of a century!

...Or what about the ever so quiet and secret theory about a bomb being concealed in a organ transplants shipment?

Turner: "I'd like to go back to New York."

Joubert: "You have not much future there. It will happen this way. You may be walking. Maybe the first sunny day of the spring. And a car will slow beside you, and a door will open, and someone you know, maybe even trust, will get out of the car. And he will smile, a becoming smile. But he will leave open the door of the car and offer to give you a lift."

 

[Flightjock30]

It was not a large Navy vessel that had many sailors and crew on board, it was launched from another point.