TSA furlough recalls

[Fallingbrick]

Keep shoveling it!

hard to keep track of 6 years! working for HK!! it ok airtran is national airline worth about as much as Mesa.

I have a few friends over there, airtran pilot group is very young, which means there is no movement to the left seat. SWEAT FO FORVER!!!


Your rich dude! http://airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/major-national-lcc/airtran.html

IM DONE WITH THIS!!!!!!!

I don’t really have a dog in this fight but this made me laugh! You’re actually making fun of AirTran’s pay rates? Let us look at yours…

http://airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/regional/gojet.html

A third year FO at AirTran makes more than a third year Captain at Gojet…oh wait, you don’t have any of those do you? Come to think of it, anyone who is in their third year at AirTran can upgrade, thus raising the bar to 106/hour. I don’t see 106 in your rates. Keep in mind that these numbers come from a contract that just became amendable. Oh, and your comment about being stuck as an FO is complete BS considering the 100 firm orders for 737’s at AirTran.

I honestly don’t give a crap about you flying for Gojets. In fact, I hope you get paid a great deal more in your current contract negotiations to fly those 700s because those current rates are pathetic! By the way, don’t forget to pay your FOs. You talking down on anyone else’s rates is pure hypocrisy. Now you may continue to rain piss on each other.
:beer:

 

[redbook]

B. Shaffer left GoJet back in march 2006 and is at Airtran. DUMB MOVE my opinion! Btw, YES that’s all I know that has gone to airtran….

Since you joined an alter ego, pilots everywhere are dying to know....what is a SMART MOVE?

 

[MD80DRVR]

I always check the phase 2 list at jetblue and have never seen a gojet pilot on it.

That makes two of us.

 

[pilotbrain]

Since you joined an alter ego, pilots everywhere are dying to know....what is a SMART MOVE?

Yes it was a smart move....captains pay 56 an hour after 3 months.....and 1000 pic after 14 months....now tell me redbood....was saying no really a smart move....by the way my 23 an hour fo pay to start is more than skywest and many other regionals to start to fly the 70 seat jet...so now who really lowered the bar...certainly not GO Jet.....keep up with the lies and Ill keep building PIC....

As far as 717 and all your other buddies....they are not going to be able to stop anybody and you all know it or you wouldnt be so pissed off.....it Go JET was truly a career ender than you would want guys going there because when you show up for an interview against us you would get the job....but wait...you wont show up because youll still be a gear monkey in an erj......was to go voting no....you really did yourself and the industry a service.....now go to work for sky west the company that started lowering the bar. And if my grammar and spelling sucks...than TS im just pumping this out while i head out and celebrate with my wife my upgrade and passing of my fed ride and line check.

Cheers!!!!

 

[Walter Sobchak]

What a jackass.

 

[Smarta$$]

Yes it was a smart move....captains pay 56 an hour after 3 months.....and 1000 pic after 14 months....now tell me redbood....was saying no really a smart move....by the way my 23 an hour fo pay to start is more than skywest and many other regionals to start to fly the 70 seat jet...so now who really lowered the bar...certainly not GO Jet.....keep up with the lies and Ill keep building PIC....

As far as 717 and all your other buddies....they are not going to be able to stop anybody and you all know it or you wouldnt be so pissed off.....it Go JET was truly a career ender than you would want guys going there because when you show up for an interview against us you would get the job....but wait...you wont show up because youll still be a gear monkey in an erj......was to go voting no....you really did yourself and the industry a service.....now go to work for sky west the company that started lowering the bar. And if my grammar and spelling sucks...than TS im just pumping this out while i head out and celebrate with my wife my upgrade and passing of my fed ride and line check.

Cheers!!!!

This guy is actually happy that he F-ed over another pilot group. Practically braging about it.

I agree, what a Jacka$$

 

[redbook]

Yes it was a smart move....captains pay 56 an hour after 3 months.....and 1000 pic after 14 months....now tell me redbood....was saying no really a smart move....by the way my 23 an hour fo pay to start is more than skywest and many other regionals to start to fly the 70 seat jet...so now who really lowered the bar...certainly not GO Jet.....keep up with the lies and Ill keep building PIC....

As far as 717 and all your other buddies....they are not going to be able to stop anybody and you all know it or you wouldnt be so pissed off.....it Go JET was truly a career ender than you would want guys going there because when you show up for an interview against us you would get the job....but wait...you wont show up because youll still be a gear monkey in an erj......was to go voting no....you really did yourself and the industry a service.....now go to work for sky west the company that started lowering the bar. And if my grammar and spelling sucks...than TS im just pumping this out while i head out and celebrate with my wife my upgrade and passing of my fed ride and line check.

Cheers!!!!

Wow, capt after three months!

You really worked hard and deserved that promotion!

The karma pendulum is already swinging right back at you.....enjoy

 

[NarcolepticAV8R]

Goat Jet sucks.

 

[Turkey Shoot]

Now you may continue to rain piss on each other.

Classic quote. I just wanted to save it. So typical of the airline business regardless of the echelon you've achieved to do this to each other.

Might I attempt to make it sound somewhat more palatable?

Now, you may continue to rain piss upon one another.

Regards Gentlemen.

 

[pilotbrain]

Wow, capt after three months!

You really worked hard and deserved that promotion!

The karma pendulum is already swinging right back at you.....enjoy

Yes i do deserve it....good things always happen to good people, redbook....remember that because it will take you a lot farther than spreading lies and false accusations. I am not responsible for taking anything from anybody...I didnt go to Sky West, two years ago, when everyone jumped on board for 19 dollars a hour and no pay for training....I didnt go to comair when they charged their new hires ten thousand dollars for training. I said NO while thousand of others jumped at the chance...they and you lowered the bar.

I excepted a job that was offered to me at twenty three an hour...paid training and a type. You are upset because GJ raised the bar and YOU SAID NO ANYWAY....Trans States was offered a pay raise of a dollar an hour for the seventies when most are paying the same for the seventies...GJ raised the bar in many ways.....twenty three an hour versus nineteen an hour, Paying for type ratings, Fifteen days off a month right out of IOE. Most importantly, great, happy ,fun people to fly with. There is no bar lowering here....look to your friends at skywest....go fly a ninety seat jet for fifty seat pay.

Keep whining because you are looking incredibly foolish to the rest of the pilot industry....so ten...or twenty....or even fifty pilots feel slighted...last time I heard the numbers where at least Forty thousand pilots in the industry that know the truth.....even though you say differently.

 

[redbook]

Yes i do deserve it....good things always happen to good people redbook....remember that....I am not responsible for taking anything from anybody...I didnt go to Sky West two years ago when everyone jumped on board for 19 dollars a hour and no pay for training....I didnt go to comair when they had to pay for their training to the cost of ten grand...I said know while thousand of others jumped at the chance...they lowered the bar...I excepted a job that was offered to me at twenty three an hour...paid training and they pay the type......you are upset because GJ raised the bar and YOU SAID NO ANYWAY....their pilot group was offered a pay raise of a dollar an hour for the seventies when most are paying the same for the seventies...GJ raised the bar in many ways.....twenty three an hour versus nineteen an hour......


Keep whining because you are looking incredibly foolish to the rest of the pilot industry....so ten...or twenty....or even fifty pilots feel slighted...last time I heard the numbers where at least Forty thousand pilots in the industry that know the truth.....even though you say differently.

Where to start? Good things happen to good people huh? I guess everyone at TSA are "bad" people, especially the furloughed folks.

You are not "responsible"? Of course you are responsible. You knowingly joined an alter ego.

G0jet raised the bar? Ok Iraqi Minister of Propoganda, I won't even touch that one.

I thought you were happy and out celebrating? Guess you decided to spew more b.s on here. The only accurate thing was the 40 thousand pilots knowing the truth. That is actually 50,000+ ALPA members knowing the truth about the alter ego g0jet.

 

[flyer172r]

Wow, 23 an hour for a 70 seat jet, when TSA guys start out at 22.29 for a 50 seat jet. Yeah, good job raising the bar on that one. Why on earth are you bragging about a dollar raise for a plane that carries almost half again as many people. Good luck dealing with Trans States Holdings management once the honeymoon is over.

 

[NarcolepticAV8R]

Raising the Bar

I excepted a job that was offered to me at twenty three an hour...paid training and a type. You are upset because GJ raised the bar and YOU SAID NO ANYWAY.......GJ raised the bar in many ways..... There is no bar lowering here....look to your friends at skywest....go fly a ninety seat jet for fifty seat pay.


Is that accepted or "excepted".

Idiot

Wow you went because of the 23 an hour...let's all go to GJ for 23 an hour and have a Koolaid party!!

Maybe instead of that cellphone commercial "raising the bar," it should be "GJ - Raising the Bar"

 

[Beanie]

How do you blackball people you don't know and are not scabs? It is just a question, so everyone please breathe deeply and relax. It would seem that whoever you went to and said don't hire this person would ask you questions and not just say "ok". If I was a CP or HR person, I would ask you if you knew them, if you flew with them, where you flew with them, how you knew them, where you met and so on. I mean Airtran has true blue scabs working there that came from Eastern. I can't imagine that they care that someone is offended about a regional airlines contract, hiring or whipsaw practices. Again, just relax. I don't know how this blackballing thing works. I no longer work for the regionals, I am in the corporate world but fascinated by all the comotion that GoJets is creating. It is like the Real World on here. You hate it, but can't look away. Please enlighten.....

 

[N311HK]

Did that guy say he makes 56 an hour as Capt. in the 700? I guess he is a great guy. He works almost for free. Go look up the word "integrity" this is guy is not it.

 

[pilotbrain]

Did that guy say he makes 56 an hour as Capt. in the 700? I guess he is a great guy. He works almost for free. Go look up the word "integrity" this is guy is not it.

This is guy...is not it????? Whaaa the hell does this mean.....shouldve voted yes...now you spew lies....56 an hour is fine...doing it for the pic

 

[pilotbrain]

Where to start? Good things happen to good people huh? I guess everyone at TSA are "bad" people, especially the furloughed folks.

You are not "responsible"? Of course you are responsible. You knowingly joined an alter ego.

G0jet raised the bar? Ok Iraqi Minister of Propoganda, I won't even touch that one.

I thought you were happy and out celebrating? Guess you decided to spew more b.s on here. The only accurate thing was the 40 thousand pilots knowing the truth. That is actually 50,000+ ALPA members knowing the truth about the alter ego g0jet.

Never said anything about bad things happening to bad people...u said that....I said good things to good people.

If management gave tsa what they wanted, an industry leading contract, even though they only have five airlplanes, Hulas would have lost 200 million dollars. You have stated time and time again how much you hate the man so I believe your goal was to try to destoy his effort to start flying bigger aircraft for United and other contracts.

GJ started with only five airplanes and they are paying well for an tiny airline trying to compete with SkyWest, Republic, and the others that have twenty times their fleet. When we build our pilot group we will have bargaining power for a bigger contract, but most of us will be long gone before this happens. Most regional pilots, that have faith in their skill and cunning, expect to be moving on after they get their thousand hours pic.....75% of the GJ pilot force will reach this target.

You voted No...that was your decision, be happy with it....quit your whining and crying...makes you look very unprofessional.....

Our starting payscale....once again is higher than skywest....and you all think that skywest is king......hypocrites all of you.

 

[Shrek]

You actually believe the NMB ruling?.......LOL

Your whole operation is being bankrolled by TSA profits.........

It is pointless to debate this argument if you drank that much Kool-Aid® bud.......

Poor kid don't even know what he has done yet......there is no going back.

 

[shindler]

Pilotbrain,
when an airline hires a pilot doesn' t just look at his/her qualifications (You stated you building PIC time and I assume eventually move to a major right??).The board looks at the candidate attitude, team playing skills, ability to be trained on a new A/C etc.
The last and probably most important, his INTEGRITY.
You can fudge your logbook, you can fool them on the team playing skills etc. You won't be able to fool someone that has been in the business for a while regarding INTEGRITY.

YOU CAN' T BUY THAT REMEMBER!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[swordfish]

Pilotbrain,
when an airline hires a pilot doesn' t just look at his/her qualifications (You stated you building PIC time and I assume eventually move to a major right??).The board looks at the candidate attitude, team playing skills, ability to be trained on a new A/C etc.
The last and probably most important, his INTEGRITY.
You can fudge your logbook, you can fool them on the team playing skills etc. You won't be able to fool someone that has been in the business for a while regarding INTEGRITY.

YOU CAN' T BUY THAT REMEMBER!!!!!!!!!!!!

INTEGRITY?

Flipping off pilots
Blocking radio calls
Name calling

Must be the definition of integrity



TSA SHOULD HAVE VOTED YES !!!!!!


It all about the love….

 

[temcgrew]

This is guy...is not it????? Whaaa the hell does this mean.....shouldve voted yes...now you spew lies....56 an hour is fine...doing it for the pic

Yeah, thanks for that. I was flying the J41 for the PIC until they booted me out and put me in the RIGHT SEAT of the EMB. This would not have happened had you guys not taken a job that our company should have let thier own employees do. I have been with TSA for about 3 years.

If you are so proud of your career accomplishments, then put G0jet on your resume instead of Trans States Holdings.

Your all backstabbers to me. My kids thank you for the paycut, their college fund was just pushed back another year by you.

 

[temcgrew]

INTEGRITY?

Flipping off pilots
Blocking radio calls
Name calling

Must be the definition of integrity



TSA SHOULD HAVE VOTED YES !!!!!!


It all about the love….

Who is TSA?

In my opinion, TSA should have let their own employees enjoy the growth opportunities that g0jet has made. Instead, TSA played games, hid behind TSH and didn't negotiate with their own employees.

You come on here and the only defense you have is "should have voted yes".
Think of something else for a change.

You act like we are all flipping off the g0jet guys. 99% of our guys will act civil around you scumbags, not that we want to buy you lunch. I've had to be around you backstabbers and was able to act civilized. On the other hand, I understand the passion of someone expressing to you guys how they really feel, especially when they are getting furloughed without cause because of you jerks hanging out (mostly out of uniform) chumming around like your crap doesn't stink.

Your so messed up by this situation that all you can say is "you flipped me off, you should have voted yes.

Enjoy flying the aircraft, get to know it well because it is going to be your only friend this long lonely career.

Thanks again, I'm enjoying my paycut.

 

[swordfish]

Who is TSA?

In my opinion, TSA should have let their own employees enjoy the growth opportunities that g0jet has made. Instead, TSA played games, hid behind TSH and didn't negotiate with their own employees.

You come on here and the only defense you have is "should have voted yes".
Think of something else for a change.

You act like we are all flipping off the g0jet guys. 99% of our guys will act civil around you scumbags, not that we want to buy you lunch. I've had to be around you backstabbers and was able to act civilized. On the other hand, I understand the passion of someone expressing to you guys how they really feel, especially when they are getting furloughed without cause because of you jerks hanging out (mostly out of uniform) chumming around like your crap doesn't stink.

Your so messed up by this situation that all you can say is "you flipped me off, you should have voted yes.

Enjoy flying the aircraft, get to know it well because it is going to be your only friend this long lonely career.

Thanks again, I'm enjoying my paycut.

This all sound to familiar, when I was at AMR, and my friends that where at ACA! Then one day TSA Stole our flying, i lost my upgrade and friends of mine lost there jobs!
smart a$$


it happins to the best of use, becouse it called Aviation!

love from a brother.

 

[flyer172r]

INTEGRITY?

Flipping off pilots
Blocking radio calls
Name calling

Must be the definition of integrity



TSA SHOULD HAVE VOTED YES !!!!!!


It all about the love….

I guess the real definition of integrity is crying to management when you see guys wearing anti-GJ ID backers in the training center, or ratting out TSA guys whenever you see them not wearing their hat in the hotel lobby. Yep, real integrity being shown there.

 

[Walter Sobchak]

How did TSA STEAL your flying? Oh, you must mean the TWE flying out of STL....that was never Eagle's flying to begin with.

 

[NarcolepticAV8R]

pilotbrain = KOOLAID KID

 

[Bushhatesyou]

Yes i do deserve it....good things always happen to good people, redbook....remember that because it will take you a lot farther than spreading lies and false accusations. I am not responsible for taking anything from anybody...I didnt go to Sky West, two years ago, when everyone jumped on board for 19 dollars a hour and no pay for training....I didnt go to comair when they charged their new hires ten thousand dollars for training. I said NO while thousand of others jumped at the chance...they and you lowered the bar.

I excepted a job that was offered to me at twenty three an hour...paid training and a type. You are upset because GJ raised the bar and YOU SAID NO ANYWAY....Trans States was offered a pay raise of a dollar an hour for the seventies when most are paying the same for the seventies...GJ raised the bar in many ways.....twenty three an hour versus nineteen an hour, Paying for type ratings, Fifteen days off a month right out of IOE. Most importantly, great, happy ,fun people to fly with. There is no bar lowering here....look to your friends at skywest....go fly a ninety seat jet for fifty seat pay.

Keep whining because you are looking incredibly foolish to the rest of the pilot industry....so ten...or twenty....or even fifty pilots feel slighted...last time I heard the numbers where at least Forty thousand pilots in the industry that know the truth.....even though you say differently.

Wow a whole $23 an hour? Nice job on "rasing they bar" by flying 70seaters for what a lot of companies pay for 50 seats or less.... I.E. Mesaba, XJT, ect.

 

[subin30]

Yes i do deserve it....good things always happen to good people, redbook....remember that because it will take you a lot farther than spreading lies and false accusations. I am not responsible for taking anything from anybody...I didnt go to Sky West, two years ago, when everyone jumped on board for 19 dollars a hour and no pay for training....I didnt go to comair when they charged their new hires ten thousand dollars for training. I said NO while thousand of others jumped at the chance...they and you lowered the bar.

I excepted a job that was offered to me at twenty three an hour...paid training and a type. You are upset because GJ raised the bar and YOU SAID NO ANYWAY....Trans States was offered a pay raise of a dollar an hour for the seventies when most are paying the same for the seventies...GJ raised the bar in many ways.....twenty three an hour versus nineteen an hour, Paying for type ratings, Fifteen days off a month right out of IOE. Most importantly, great, happy ,fun people to fly with. There is no bar lowering here....look to your friends at skywest....go fly a ninety seat jet for fifty seat pay.

Keep whining because you are looking incredibly foolish to the rest of the pilot industry....so ten...or twenty....or even fifty pilots feel slighted...last time I heard the numbers where at least Forty thousand pilots in the industry that know the truth.....even though you say differently.

thats some funny sh!t! you screwed everyone in the as$ for that? You win!

F GAYJETS!

 

[NarcolepticAV8R]

GJ started with only five airplanes and they are paying well for an tiny airline

Our starting payscale....once again is higher than skywest...quote]

Yeah, but who really cares about starting pay in the big picture. Your 23/hr is also more than an internist doctor. But once again look at the big picture.

Pilotbrain, your career is a cheap one night stand at GJ. My career is a longterm marriage. That's the difference.

 

[Shrek]

"it happins to the best of use, becouse it called Aviation!".........Swordfish

I will let that one speak for itself........Corky