TSA Conducts ‘Inappropriate’ Screening at BNA FBOs

[gunfyter]

How about the new administration limiting my pay to $500K?

 

[FLYLOW22]

How about the new administration limiting my pay to $500K?

You know something I don't about pay and compensation under IBB?

You won't make that cash flying planes, not even in the 60's.

 

[gunfyter]

You know something I don't about pay and compensation under IBB?

You won't make that cash flying planes, not even in the 60's.

What if I want to move to the Dark Side?:laugh: Its happened before....

 

[CherryBomb]

While going through the little BS security checkpoint in the Signature BOS I asked the screener: So if I was to have an axe, about 16 inches long with a very sharp blade, could you let me through?

He of course laughed and said no.

I said OH S**T! Call your manager then cause every single airplane out there has one!


What is the TSA going to do when the pax come through the FBO with rifles and tons of ammo for their hunting trip to Falfurious????

 

[fischman]

Where was the outrage when the last admin was taking away your rights in order to protect you.

Are you being serious? Sometimes the written word is so clumsy.

If you didn't see the outrage, you have been living in a bubble.

 

[FLYLOW22]

What if I want to move to the Dark Side?:laugh: Its happened before....

No kidding.

It's the American Way for some.

 

[goodgig]

So, uh, how much useful load are you going to lose when the "impenetrable" cockpit doors are mandated?

 

[Flex-ible]

So, uh, how much useful load are you going to lose when the "impenetrable" cockpit doors are mandated?

At least then I could read the USA Today in cruise!

But seriously, there really is a question as to what the people at BOS and ORD are really doing. Someone will walk through with a licensed firearm, get stopped, and start a whale of a lawsuit.

Oh, and on the airline side....I recently went through TSA with a nice crew meal. They insisted I could not take the Coke, even though I was in uniform. But they let me take the knife that came with the meal. Hmmmm....

 

[waka]

While going through the little BS security checkpoint in the Signature BOS I asked the screener: So if I was to have an axe, about 16 inches long with a very sharp blade, could you let me through?

He of course laughed and said no.

I said OH S**T! Call your manager then cause every single airplane out there has one!


What is the TSA going to do when the pax come through the FBO with rifles and tons of ammo for their hunting trip to Falfurious????

That's funny! Actually, I've taken pax out of Signature BOS with hunting rifles and a revolver. The Massport screeners still wanted to run the rifles through the x-ray.

 

[HAZ-MAT]

What can I screen ya fah? Let me check ya dungarees fah contrahband...

 

[B314Clipper]

I thought we were going to have an owner get arrested at BOS because of the security. We were heading out to the plane and he balked when we got to Xray. He wanted to know what was going on and we explained that he had to go through here in Boston. He started cussing up a storm that he paid LOTS of money to avoid this S#$%! BLEEP this and BLEEP that! Meanwhile a Mass cop is in the lobby and sidling over. Finally, he calms down and says that he is never flying out of this stupid airport again. Fine by me.

 

[SDCFI]

At least then I could read the USA Today in cruise!

But seriously, there really is a question as to what the people at BOS and ORD are really doing. Someone will walk through with a licensed firearm, get stopped, and start a whale of a lawsuit.

Oh, and on the airline side....I recently went through TSA with a nice crew meal. They insisted I could not take the Coke, even though I was in uniform. But they let me take the knife that came with the meal. Hmmmm....

That's funny, couple weeks ago in DFW they took a metal butter knife I had in my bag from a crew meal. Said I couldn't have it because it was serrated. So guess what you get with your meal in First on American? Yup, a serrated butter knife! I guess because it is already on the plane you can't use it for sinister purposes.

 

[Fozzy]

Someone will walk through with a licensed firearm, get stopped, and start a whale of a lawsuit.

What exactly is a licensed firearm?

 

[cherry20's]

Concealed handgun license maybe? Licensed automatic weapons? There is a lot of licenses for firearms

 

[waka]

I thought we were going to have an owner get arrested at BOS because of the security. We were heading out to the plane and he balked when we got to Xray. He wanted to know what was going on and we explained that he had to go through here in Boston. He started cussing up a storm that he paid LOTS of money to avoid this S#$%! BLEEP this and BLEEP that! Meanwhile a Mass cop is in the lobby and sidling over. Finally, he calms down and says that he is never flying out of this stupid airport again. Fine by me.

That's exactly what Massport wants. They hate general aviation.

 

[TurboHonda]

Is this the incident that started this thread? Sounds like TSA prematurely showed their hand and then pulled it back to replay it later. Just my opinion.

[FONT=arial,helvetica,geneva]GA Security Sting An Error[/FONT]

The National Business Aviation Association says the Transportation Security Administration is rewriting a manual for field personnel after a surprise general aviation security operation delayed passengers and crew members in Nashville in late December and early January. Doug Carr, NBAA's VP of Safety, Security and Regulation, said TSA officials conducted bag searches and wanded passengers and crew headed for private aircraft and also checked FBO personnel in what appears to have been a misinterpretation by local TSA personnel of instructions in a classified security manual called the Playbook. Carr said NBAA has since discussed the operation with TSA headquarters and confirmed that this kind of activity "is not the direction they wanted to go regarding general aviation." He said he's been told a new Playbook is in the works that will address the issue but since the manual is secret, he can't know exactly what's in it.


Carr said NBAA first heard of the Playbook late last year when the local TSA told officials at Bradley Airport in Hartford, Conn., about plans to step up GA security. NBAA stepped in at that time and the plans were dropped. However, the Nashville TSA headquarters obviously took something in the Playbook to mean that random security checks of private aircraft and FBOs was part of that plan and set up a table at Nashville Airport to carry them out. Although the incidents took place more than a month ago, word just got out last week. It spread quickly, however, and caused a lot of concern for some, since there has been a lot of discussion about the TSA and GA security recently with the five public hearings on the administration's Large Airplane Security Program. Carr said he doesn't think the two issues are linked or are part of an overall security plan for GA, although the timing might suggest that to some.

 

[Bad Monkey!]

You always have the right to decline to proceed and pick up your stuff and leave. They have no authority once you exit the security checkpoint. If they want to hassel you they have to call airport police and you can be long gone before they arrive.

Besides I didn't think they had Tubs to Stack at the FBO?

Idiots!

Everyone should read the proposal carefully to this new reg. The TSA wants law enforcement authority, including having sidearms. They want control outside of the checkpoint.

We should all be afraid of rent-a-cops with GED's.

 

[blzr]

We had a Rent-a Cop at our hangar. Sometime on new years eve, I guess he decided to play cowboy and shot out our 48" plasma and shatteres the plate glass window behind it.

We don't have rent-a-cops at the hangar anymore, and we all feel safer

 

[Fozzy]

Concealed handgun license maybe? Licensed automatic weapons? There is a lot of licenses for firearms

I was being a smart as$. I know far to well about handgun permits. I am from one of the borderline socialist NE states. :angryfire
Anyways, what if they walk though with a unlicensed firearm (long guns). What is the difference. They have no authority.
Just another government power grab.