TransAsia ATR 72 in river

[GravityHater]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/04/taiwan-plane-crash-lands-in-river

 

[glasspilot1]

Lost an engine, got below Vmca and over it went. It will be interesting to know what it's T/O weight was and if they had accurate numbers.

 

[JettBoii]

Left prop is feathered.

 

[michaelshafer]

Was the left prop feathered? Does the ATR-72 600 do that automatically? It looked like it was windmilling to me.

 

[BobbyBiplane]

ATR ATPCS automatically feathers the prop (and supplies Uptrim) upon engine failure with Take-off selected. ATR 72-600 props windmill rather quickly at feather.

Why not wait for the DFDR readout rather than speculate????

Bob

 

[bafanguy]

FYI:

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...light-data-suggests-wrong-engine-shut-408774/

 

[Jetdriver69]

According to the ABC evening news, when one engine failed about 5 seconds after takeoff, the crew shut down the wrong engine 33 seconds later.

When the crew discovered the mistake, it was too late.

I hope that is not the case and who knows where they got the information.

If anyone out there has ever had a low altitude engine failure, the last thing on your mind is securing a dead engine.

Damn shame.

 

[Andy]

Why not wait for the DFDR readout rather than speculate????

Are you new to FI/pilot forums?

 

[bafanguy]

FYI. At least it's from an aviation media outlet rather than CNN:

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/transasia-ge235-shutting-down-the-wrong-engine-408790/

"Taiwan's accident investigators have taken the unusual step of publishing part of the flight data recorder printout for the crashed ATR 72-600 almost as soon as it was available to them."

I was a bit surprised at the speed with which they released the FDR info. But that's just some of the "what" without reference to the "why". "Why" will take a long time...

 

[BobbyBiplane]

Are you new to FI/pilot forums?

Nope, but paraphrasing Alexander Pope, "Hope springs eternal ..."

 

[BobbyBiplane]

As a pilot I flew with 40 years ago once said, "If an engine quits, don't touch anything."

 

[T-1GUY]

If shutting down an engine due to a failure, push the throttle forward a little to see if anything changes. If you feel a yaw, make sure you have the correct throttle. Just one more technique.

Sometimes in training we get so hung up on shutting down a failed engine, what the hell for? I agree. Do nothing for the first 1,000 feet. If it is on fire, memory items only. If its not burning leave it the freak alone.

Fly the airplane first !!!

 

[Golden Falcon]

no VMC rollover, one failed, the other one shut off by mistake, stall and roll...

 

[bafanguy]

FYI:

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...-pilots-after-tests-reveal-weaknesses-408923/