Traffic violations?

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Union: Flight Options Fired Pilots for Traffic Violations
The Brotherhood of Teamsters, Local 1108, which represents pilots for fractional provider Flight Options, said this week that some pilots were fired for their inability to receive Canpass authorization. According to the union, Flight Options management recently fired or otherwise forced out approximately six pilots over what it said amounted to simple traffic violations. Canpass eligibility, which allows a foreign aircraft to enter Canada with fewer restrictions if the crew and passengers are pre-qualified, “is required of our pilots in order to provide the highest level of service and efficiency to our customers,” a Flight Options spokesman told AIN. In addition, the union told AIN it offered management a simple workaround that would have allowed the fractional provider to offer the same level of service, but was turned down. According to the union, management instituted the requirement as a form of leverage, as the two sides are engaged in a contract negotiation. Flight Options declined to comment on the alleged firings or the contract negotiations.[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
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The mangement team who made this call loves to go to court. I would be willing to bet that less then 1/2 of 1% of their flights fall into this catagory. Therefore it really isn't a service issue.

Also keeping all the pilots canpass qualified is a expense that may or may not pay for itself.
 

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What type of traffic ticket will keep you out of Canada?
 

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What type of traffic ticket will keep you out of Canada?
It isn't keeping the guys out of Canada, it is a special pass that lets you avoid customs and fly into certain airports.
 

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I fly for FLOPS, our CEO is a s#%tbag. They are just PO'd that we unionized, so they are trying to scare us into submission. They will have to explain their decision in court.

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DUI's, DWI's, Wreckless Op, Fleeing and Eluding, generally the more serious ones. The everyday speeding ticket isn't a show stopper.
 

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How far back do they check for traffic or other offenses. I mean, so you got a speeding ticket 6 years ago...wtf does that have to do with anything??
 

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A couple of guys have items as far back as 26 years ago, (college fun).
 

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Yes, a single stupid act that you did twenty years ago as a kid can get you fired at flight options now. You can't meet the conditions of a foreign govt so now you get fired. In one case flight options misused the canpass authorization and caused the pilot to have his canpass suspended by canada. And now he is subject to termination for the company's mistake. Only two or three owners at Flops actually use the canpass.

It is just another way to get rid of a handful of higher paid pilots. Chip away a few here and a few there so as not to piss off the entire pilot group. One day they will come for you!

Follow the initiatives!
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And now he is subject to termination for the company's mistake. Only two or three owners at Flops actually use the canpass.

Follow the initiatives!
Pay your dues!
ASAP!
Wow, so the number of actually flights are lower then my thoughts of half of one percent. Very sad. Dumb on mangements part though.
 

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Yes, a single stupid act that you did twenty years ago as a kid can get you fired at flight options now. You can't meet the conditions of a foreign govt so now you get fired. In one case flight options misused the canpass authorization and caused the pilot to have his canpass suspended by canada. And now he is subject to termination for the company's mistake. Only two or three owners at Flops actually use the canpass.

It is just another way to get rid of a handful of higher paid pilots. Chip away a few here and a few there so as not to piss off the entire pilot group. One day they will come for you!

Follow the initiatives!
Pay your dues!
ASAP!
Defense contractor Raytheon. American tax dollars at work (or loss of work, in this case). Are any of these pilots veterans?
 

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Even with a DUI there aint no REG says you can't still fly........CANPASS may not want you but a DUI is no real cause for being terminated......
 

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Even with a DUI you ARE ABLE to go to Canada. You must go through the proper channels to get a letter of rehabilitation from Canada. It's not bad, just some paperwork, Money and time.

I'm sure if you contact Canpass they will get you started in the right direction.

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Try parking tickets

DUI's, DWI's, Wreckless Op, Fleeing and Eluding, generally the more serious ones. The everyday speeding ticket isn't a show stopper.
Brought a group of passengers into Canada a couple months back and they were detained about 2 hours. One guy had the same name as someone who'd had a DUI. CANPASS asked me about this on the phone before we departed and the agent made me swear that I'd seen his passport and that he had a different passport# from the man in question. They still asked him dozens of questions on arrival just to be sure he wasn't the guy.

Another pax in the same group was almost denied entry. He had unpaid parking tickets from NYC from many years ago. He moved to LA and was unaware that he'd forgot to pay them. He had to arrange to wire the money to the NY authorities from the Canadian customs office before they'd let him in. Amazing that Canada had access to this info when US Customs had never said a word about it.
 

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Another pax in the same group was almost denied entry. He had unpaid parking tickets from NYC from many years ago. He moved to LA and was unaware that he'd forgot to pay them. He had to arrange to wire the money to the NY authorities from the Canadian customs office before they'd let him in. Amazing that Canada had access to this info when US Customs had never said a word about it.
Now this is a case of Canada overstepping their bounds. To be a collection agency for NY is crazy.
 

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Now this is a case of Canada overstepping their bounds. To be a collection agency for NY is crazy.
Actually, they did NYC a favor. Got mo $$$ for street repairs.

The U.S./Canada/Mexico is going to be 1 country in the next decade or so anyway. I think its called the North American Union. Ask your local Senator/Representative about it.
 

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Actually, they did NYC a favor. Got mo $$$ for street repairs.

The U.S./Canada/Mexico is going to be 1 country in the next decade or so anyway. I think its called the North American Union. Ask your local Senator/Representative about it.
Yes and the Dollar will be fazed out in favor of the AMERO. Its a done deal.
 

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I had a DUI over ten years ago, and have no problems entering Canada or CanPass authorization.
 

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You do not have the canpass that FO has. because with a DUI you can not get it even when it has been 26 years ago
 

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You do not have the canpass that FO has. because with a DUI you can not get it even when it has been 26 years ago
He is right. It is a special deal that lets you by pass customs and fly into certain airports (the list isn't very long) without the benefit of a customs visit. Doesn't make sense for most operators and the pax have to have the same clearence...
 
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