listen up, i know im about to get bashed pretty hard, but i go to these flight meetings, im not a hard core flight team member but i think they are fun to go to. i could careless if i ,or nsu for that matter, wins anything. maybe it sounds stupid for people that fly airplanes bigger than a 152, but for a small timers that go to small podunk universities its not that bad. oh yeah, one more thing I'M NOT GAY!!!
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I must agree with a poster from way back in the thread that the portions dealing with flight teams are inane. I realize I added a comment above about flight teams. I will say, though, that one of my students at Riddle was a flight team member who won the NIFA instrument flying competition. I take no credit for that; he was already sharp when I got him. This same student eventually got on with Mesa and made Captain at its operation in Ohio - can't remember the specific airline - perhaps Skyway.
Scheduling stage checks at both Riddle and FSI really was no problem. Both schools had plenty of stage check pilots to go around. I checked pilots at both schools. Riddle stage checks were indeed known to be brutal. I think politics really played a role. Also, many Riddle stage check pilots were really not mature enough to handle the role fairly. I can say that because I was pushing 40 when I gave stage checks at Riddle. I gave pre-stage checks at FSI. A couple of the FSI stage check pilots could be hardasses, but one was very fair with one of my students. I recall that he was having trouble with his oral and instead of outright unsatting him, she let him take a break so he could gather his wits. I appreciated that.
The flight team "discussion" aside, this hasn't been a bad thread. Riddle isn't everyone's cup of tea. Neither is FSI. Choose what's best for your needs, but be sure to get that degree.
I must agree with a poster from way back in the thread that the portions dealing with flight teams are inane. I realize I added a comment above about flight teams. I will say, though, that one of my students at Riddle was a flight team member who won the NIFA instrument flying competition. I take no credit for that; he was already sharp when I got him. This same student eventually got on with Mesa and made Captain at its operation in Ohio - can't remember the specific airline - perhaps Skyway.
Scheduling stage checks at both Riddle and FSI really was no problem. Both schools had plenty of stage check pilots to go around. I checked pilots at both schools. Riddle stage checks were indeed known to be brutal. I think politics really played a role. Also, many Riddle stage check pilots were really not mature enough to handle the role fairly. I can say that because I was pushing 40 when I gave stage checks at Riddle. I gave pre-stage checks at FSI. A couple of the FSI stage check pilots could be hardasses, but one was very fair with one of my students. I recall that he was having trouble with his oral and instead of outright unsatting him, she let him take a break so he could gather his wits. I appreciated that.
The flight team "discussion" aside, this hasn't been a bad thread. Riddle isn't everyone's cup of tea. Neither is FSI. Choose what's best for your needs, but be sure to get that degree.
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General tso: good chicken.
General's post is the only well thought out pro-ERAU post that I've seen on this board. When I was up at Riddle, the flight team was a joke to everyone also. They wore their little jackets with "Golden Eagles" emblazoned on them and walked around like they were the coolest. They were also the ones who went to the Prescott High School football games to pick up chicks. If you do want to go to Riddle, the General's way is the best way to do it. It's still going to be more expensive than public school, but you will still save several thousand on your flight training, and not have to put up with the "Riddle run-around" at the top-heavy, over-bureaucratic flight school. I hate to just repeat everything he said, but he also makes great points that whatever they tell you about direct-hire programs, they are full of it, and the Riddle degree does not carry the prestige in the industry that Riddle grads would like to think it does. The actual (non-aviation) classes at the Universtiy were very good, and the small-school feel was really nice.
I would still recommend getting a non-aviation degree. Maybe Aerospace or computer Engineering if you can hack it. But congrats to the General. Excellent post!
General's post is the only well thought out pro-ERAU post that I've seen on this board. When I was up at Riddle, the flight team was a joke to everyone also. They wore their little jackets with "Golden Eagles" emblazoned on them and walked around like they were the coolest. They were also the ones who went to the Prescott High School football games to pick up chicks. If you do want to go to Riddle, the General's way is the best way to do it. It's still going to be more expensive than public school, but you will still save several thousand on your flight training, and not have to put up with the "Riddle run-around" at the top-heavy, over-bureaucratic flight school. I hate to just repeat everything he said, but he also makes great points that whatever they tell you about direct-hire programs, they are full of it, and the Riddle degree does not carry the prestige in the industry that Riddle grads would like to think it does. The actual (non-aviation) classes at the Universtiy were very good, and the small-school feel was really nice.
I would still recommend getting a non-aviation degree. Maybe Aerospace or computer Engineering if you can hack it. But congrats to the General. Excellent post!
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pretty disgusting!
Well, I though I could gain a little insight on other schools by reading this thread. All I've seen is bashing. So I'll throw a couple of points out there:
1-Background: I did two years of college at U of Alaska aviation program while flying for a 121/135 commuter. Switched to ERAU extended campus to finish. They gave me credit for my two years and ratings. I think I did about 40ish credits with ERAU.
2-The instructors I had at both schools were outstanding. What I liked most was that all classes that weren't aviation driven (calculus, physics, etc.) were still taught using aviation examples. The reason I preferred this was because I have a genuine love of all things aviation and it kept my interest so much that I truly believe my GPA was better because of it. This had a direct impact on my resume.
3-I don't have a problem with people that center everything on aviation, including their degree, because they probably don't have an interest on things such as criminal justice or underwater basket weaving. If you lose your medical there are still a lot of options with an AS degree, such as sim instructing, ground school instructing, aviation college instructing, management, safety, ALPA, AOPA, etc, etc.
4-I think bashing the people that do the flying team thing is both disrespectful, and repulsive. I didn't do it and don't know too much about it, but I'm pretty sure that these kids probably love what they're doing. They probably look at it as a way to better their skills at something they love and also as a way to meet more people. You're right about one thing-they won't do stuff like that at the majors. So WHY NOT do it while you have the chance.
Not everyone can hit a collegiate fastball, so this is an activity that they can participate in. I will say that in no way can you rate an education based on a flying competition.
5-Everyone at the airlines has a different path and story, so there is no best way to get there except stay motivated, focused, and no matter how you do it, GET IT DONE!
6-I am in the guard and without question I can say that it is absolutely the SLOWEST way to get to a major! I think I average about 175 hrs a year flying the F-16. You'll get a little more in heavies, but you won't start getting PIC time until about 3-4 years after you put on the flightsuit. Right now while the majors aren't hiring is the time for regional pilots to get that fighter guard slot you want. A guy going to UPT right now can expect to be released for civilian employment in about three years.
Best of luck, and quit calling fellow pilots "gay", unless they really are (not that there's anything "wrong with that").
Well, I though I could gain a little insight on other schools by reading this thread. All I've seen is bashing. So I'll throw a couple of points out there:
1-Background: I did two years of college at U of Alaska aviation program while flying for a 121/135 commuter. Switched to ERAU extended campus to finish. They gave me credit for my two years and ratings. I think I did about 40ish credits with ERAU.
2-The instructors I had at both schools were outstanding. What I liked most was that all classes that weren't aviation driven (calculus, physics, etc.) were still taught using aviation examples. The reason I preferred this was because I have a genuine love of all things aviation and it kept my interest so much that I truly believe my GPA was better because of it. This had a direct impact on my resume.
3-I don't have a problem with people that center everything on aviation, including their degree, because they probably don't have an interest on things such as criminal justice or underwater basket weaving. If you lose your medical there are still a lot of options with an AS degree, such as sim instructing, ground school instructing, aviation college instructing, management, safety, ALPA, AOPA, etc, etc.
4-I think bashing the people that do the flying team thing is both disrespectful, and repulsive. I didn't do it and don't know too much about it, but I'm pretty sure that these kids probably love what they're doing. They probably look at it as a way to better their skills at something they love and also as a way to meet more people. You're right about one thing-they won't do stuff like that at the majors. So WHY NOT do it while you have the chance.
Not everyone can hit a collegiate fastball, so this is an activity that they can participate in. I will say that in no way can you rate an education based on a flying competition.
5-Everyone at the airlines has a different path and story, so there is no best way to get there except stay motivated, focused, and no matter how you do it, GET IT DONE!
6-I am in the guard and without question I can say that it is absolutely the SLOWEST way to get to a major! I think I average about 175 hrs a year flying the F-16. You'll get a little more in heavies, but you won't start getting PIC time until about 3-4 years after you put on the flightsuit. Right now while the majors aren't hiring is the time for regional pilots to get that fighter guard slot you want. A guy going to UPT right now can expect to be released for civilian employment in about three years.
Best of luck, and quit calling fellow pilots "gay", unless they really are (not that there's anything "wrong with that").
For what its worth, my humble opinion on this subject is that any 2 or 4yr degree is an asset. Period! It really doesnt matter whether or not its from ERAU or Fudpucker JuCo. Furthermore I feel that Aviation oriented degrees dont always pigeon-hole people in the event of loss of job, medical, or whatever. Anybody worth his salt will find something that suits his or her needs in the event of a unforseen career ending event. (Most pilots I know are some of the most employable people I have ever met. I base this opinion on summer internships at General Motors working on the factory floor, as well as throwing bags at NWA to supplement my income while attending ERAU and then Western Michigan.) Any education is great, get the best one that you can afford! But keep in mind this job isnt really as hard as we let others think that it is. I've flown with guys that got their ratings at some of the worst pilot mills that you can imagine and fly circles around ERAU,FSI,and WMU grads(especially those hetro challenged flight team guys!! geesh what a joke that self absorbed crap is!!) Quality people usually rise to the top and some are hired at majors with degrees in animal husbandry and womens studies with nothing more than local FBO training. Its the person that you develop in to, and the choices you make while you get the boxes checked on your NWA application that really count.
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"av8instyle's" Point 3 is really well taken. People indeed forget that one can do so much more with an Aeronautical Science degree than just bore holes in the sky. Sometimes we get so wrapped up in the aviation v. non-aviation degree debate that we lose sight of the big picture. Everyone wants to have a Plan B. Well, just having a degree from an accredited college is your Plan B.
I once heard that sometimes Aeronautical Science majors have an easier time getting jobs outside of aviation than inside aviation. Think about it. There is some extremely valuable learning obtained from the course. Along with aviation-type courses, AS majors at Riddle were required to take physics, math and, my real favorite, Technical Writing. Consider what you can do with that training. In aviation, write manuals and training pieces. In industry, write descriptive pieces on machinery so that Joe 4th grader can understand it. Just a couple of examples.
I like an Aeronautical Science degree. If I had it to do all over, I would have earned a second B.S. in Aero Science. Once again, the important point is to earn a degree, in something.
"av8instyle's" Point 3 is really well taken. People indeed forget that one can do so much more with an Aeronautical Science degree than just bore holes in the sky. Sometimes we get so wrapped up in the aviation v. non-aviation degree debate that we lose sight of the big picture. Everyone wants to have a Plan B. Well, just having a degree from an accredited college is your Plan B.
I once heard that sometimes Aeronautical Science majors have an easier time getting jobs outside of aviation than inside aviation. Think about it. There is some extremely valuable learning obtained from the course. Along with aviation-type courses, AS majors at Riddle were required to take physics, math and, my real favorite, Technical Writing. Consider what you can do with that training. In aviation, write manuals and training pieces. In industry, write descriptive pieces on machinery so that Joe 4th grader can understand it. Just a couple of examples.
I like an Aeronautical Science degree. If I had it to do all over, I would have earned a second B.S. in Aero Science. Once again, the important point is to earn a degree, in something.
Re: compitition
It's more like 100 planes, but who's counting. Maybe it's different at your institution, but in my neck of the woods, the best pilots aren't on the team...necessarily. The people on the team try out, they aren't selected. I know terrific pilots who don't even bother to try out.
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It's more like 100 planes, but who's counting. Maybe it's different at your institution, but in my neck of the woods, the best pilots aren't on the team...necessarily. The people on the team try out, they aren't selected. I know terrific pilots who don't even bother to try out.
WOW you guys are really going at it in here, so what the hell I guess I might as well put in my $.02. First I am not trying to offend anyone in here, but I am sure I am going to so here it goes. Now I might not be against some of the big aviation schools if I had went to one of them and become such a dorky pilot like most people I have met from those schools. I have a real good friend who goes to an aviation school in Minnesota and sure she is learning how to fly for the airlines and all that **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED**, but in my mind she in not really learning how to FLY. By learning to FLY I mean doing it as more then a career, and having fun with it. Not whipping out performance charts or your E6B whenever you go to fly, or worrying about being 500' agl at all times and entering the traffic pattern just the right way.
Its also great when you come back from doing a long X/C and you tell your instructor you accidentally flew into the clouds and had to get an ASR approach to land when you don't even have your instrument ticket yet. Then you tell your instructor about this and what you learned from it, and he then tells the head of the flight department who says you can do your training there, but you will not be allowed to take a checkride there or take an airplane by yourself and you will get all F's for your aviation courses that semester. That is the type of place I would want to learn to fly at. NOT!!!!
Oh yeah why wouldn't anyone not want to pay student loans for the rest of their life??? Oh but I guess most of your parents pay for you school so you don't have to worry about that.
I guess I will never know what it is like though since I really learned how to FLY without the big name school behind me. I got started flying an Aeronca Champ out of a 900' strip in August with trees on one end and power lines on the other. I also love the fact that I have $000.00 left to pay of my flight training!! Now I know I don't have my degree yet, but I sure can't beat making money flying now, saving for the future, and starting school online this spring to get my degree and then having no student loans to pay back either.
Now I know this is totally subjective since this is how I got my training so sorry if I pissed anyone off here, well not really but I just thought I would try and be nice. Ok when I read this later I am also sure none of this is going to make any sense to me so I will just pour myself another Bourbon and Coke. See ya'll later.
Its also great when you come back from doing a long X/C and you tell your instructor you accidentally flew into the clouds and had to get an ASR approach to land when you don't even have your instrument ticket yet. Then you tell your instructor about this and what you learned from it, and he then tells the head of the flight department who says you can do your training there, but you will not be allowed to take a checkride there or take an airplane by yourself and you will get all F's for your aviation courses that semester. That is the type of place I would want to learn to fly at. NOT!!!!
Oh yeah why wouldn't anyone not want to pay student loans for the rest of their life??? Oh but I guess most of your parents pay for you school so you don't have to worry about that.
I guess I will never know what it is like though since I really learned how to FLY without the big name school behind me. I got started flying an Aeronca Champ out of a 900' strip in August with trees on one end and power lines on the other. I also love the fact that I have $000.00 left to pay of my flight training!! Now I know I don't have my degree yet, but I sure can't beat making money flying now, saving for the future, and starting school online this spring to get my degree and then having no student loans to pay back either.
Now I know this is totally subjective since this is how I got my training so sorry if I pissed anyone off here, well not really but I just thought I would try and be nice. Ok when I read this later I am also sure none of this is going to make any sense to me so I will just pour myself another Bourbon and Coke. See ya'll later.
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ERAU Sucks! Reasons to follow shortly. Has anyone here even heard of a school called Florida Tech? I haven't seen that school mentioned at all. Florida Tech offers multiple degrees in the field of aviation, some will prepare you for a career outside of flying, but well inside the field of aviation. ERAU doesn't have any kind of a course offering that truly prepares its students for the possibility of medical disqualification. I researched it's cirriculums as well as other school's and found F.I.T. to have the best respect in the industry outside of flying. ERAU has been around the longest as a flight training school and therefore is the most well-known. Unfortunately the quality of the pilot that comes out of there isn't what it used to be. Secondly, ERAU focuses solely on aviation. F.I.T. has other fields such as marine biology, engineering, and oceanography. This forces people to be exposed to all sorts of information... the stuff that truly rounds out an individual. The flight program at F.I.T. isn't sub-par, and it's fleet (comprised of 98% piper training acft.) is either new or refurbed. All I can say is that there is more to aviation and life than just flying. Who builds the runways for all of you to land on? The airports? the Aprons? The H.S.taxiways? Who brings you the pax? People from schools like F.I.T do all of that. I know of people from ERAU who are out there doing the consulting scene, however, the job that they got would have gone to an F.I.T. grad before it would go to and ERAU grad solely based upon the training that would be required for the ERAU grad to get caught up. I'm glad I went to F.I.T.... as though you couldn't tell. I've had job offers from Birk-Hillman, HNTB, and a few others. Too bad I'm a pilot and want to struggle with that route now vs. going with a secure job planning airport designs.
ERAU Sucks! Reasons to follow shortly. Has anyone here even heard of a school called Florida Tech? I haven't seen that school mentioned at all. Florida Tech offers multiple degrees in the field of aviation, some will prepare you for a career outside of flying, but well inside the field of aviation. ERAU doesn't have any kind of a course offering that truly prepares its students for the possibility of medical disqualification. I researched it's cirriculums as well as other school's and found F.I.T. to have the best respect in the industry outside of flying. ERAU has been around the longest as a flight training school and therefore is the most well-known. Unfortunately the quality of the pilot that comes out of there isn't what it used to be. Secondly, ERAU focuses solely on aviation. F.I.T. has other fields such as marine biology, engineering, and oceanography. This forces people to be exposed to all sorts of information... the stuff that truly rounds out an individual. The flight program at F.I.T. isn't sub-par, and it's fleet (comprised of 98% piper training acft.) is either new or refurbed. All I can say is that there is more to aviation and life than just flying. Who builds the runways for all of you to land on? The airports? the Aprons? The H.S.taxiways? Who brings you the pax? People from schools like F.I.T do all of that. I know of people from ERAU who are out there doing the consulting scene, however, the job that they got would have gone to an F.I.T. grad before it would go to and ERAU grad solely based upon the training that would be required for the ERAU grad to get caught up. I'm glad I went to F.I.T.... as though you couldn't tell. I've had job offers from Birk-Hillman, HNTB, and a few others. Too bad I'm a pilot and want to struggle with that route now vs. going with a secure job planning airport designs.
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You forgot to mention that MLB, where F.I.T.'s flight line is based, is a nice airport and Valkaria is an okay touch-and-go field.
Don't forgot the proximity to Titusville as another field, and to the Kennedy Space Center for watching Shuttle launches live.
Seriously, F.I.T. is an excellent school, with nice aircraft and a nice flight line.
You forgot to mention that MLB, where F.I.T.'s flight line is based, is a nice airport and Valkaria is an okay touch-and-go field.
Don't forgot the proximity to Titusville as another field, and to the Kennedy Space Center for watching Shuttle launches live.
Seriously, F.I.T. is an excellent school, with nice aircraft and a nice flight line.
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Chill out Hotsection!! sounds like you have a bad case of "Riddle Envy" Im sure that FIT is a fine school and that you received a wonderful education there, but ERAU is a fine school as well. It seems to me that the last time I was at NATCO that ERAU was the only school that Northwest had a full-time represenative from.(I may be wrong though) That tells me that Riddle must be doing something right.
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As an ERAU graduate, I will comment that I did not regret for one moment my academic training there. For the original poster, I attended ERAU but took flight training at a nearby Part 61 flight school. This allowed me the choice of flight instructors at the flight school vs. assigned instructors at ERAU. I was fortunate to have an ex-Air Force pilot as a flight instructor and enjoyed my training at the school while taking academic courses at ERAU. I am sure that this option would be available at other schools like FIT or UND where the student takes academic courses only while taking flight training at a local FBO. It saved me and my family a sizable sum to train this way and I am glad to have had this opportunity. I'd say that the best school for any individual is based on what that individual's needs are. Different schools are good in their own way.
As for the flight team, I cannot believe the teams have gone to the extreme that they have with the formation taxiing!! When I was at ERAU, it was much simpler and I enjoyed my behind-the-scenes role on the team. As a CFI in my senior year I could not compete but I helped behind the scenes. When I was a junior, I was practicing for the simulator competition. Partway through the fall semester, I'd passed my IFR checkride and fell ill when I came home from the exam. I was sick for six weeks and was unable to compete. I went in the late 1980s and I do not recall any such formation taxiing and would have been embarrassed to be a member of the team if I'd seen that. As it was I was interested in simulator competition which did not involve any such shenanigans. Since I was behind the scenes, I only wore the flight suit once, for the team picture. I can't believe the flight teams have deteriorated to this level of verbally attacking competitors from opposing schools and the displays that I am reading about. I'm so embarrassed by this. Shame that they cannot realize that the simpler the better.
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As for the flight team, I cannot believe the teams have gone to the extreme that they have with the formation taxiing!! When I was at ERAU, it was much simpler and I enjoyed my behind-the-scenes role on the team. As a CFI in my senior year I could not compete but I helped behind the scenes. When I was a junior, I was practicing for the simulator competition. Partway through the fall semester, I'd passed my IFR checkride and fell ill when I came home from the exam. I was sick for six weeks and was unable to compete. I went in the late 1980s and I do not recall any such formation taxiing and would have been embarrassed to be a member of the team if I'd seen that. As it was I was interested in simulator competition which did not involve any such shenanigans. Since I was behind the scenes, I only wore the flight suit once, for the team picture. I can't believe the flight teams have deteriorated to this level of verbally attacking competitors from opposing schools and the displays that I am reading about. I'm so embarrassed by this. Shame that they cannot realize that the simpler the better.
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UND Baby!
KISS: Keep it simple.
Read the new issue of FLYING MAG and you'll come across an article about UND!
- I wouldn't grade a school by its flying team. In fact, Riddle has a better flying team program...but who wins every year?! The team is just a group of people that work hard to win...it doesn't necessarily measure a school.
- Cost. UND vs. Riddle. UND wins hands down. PLUS you'll walk away with Instructor certificates...assuming you can earn them!
- Liberal Arts Education: UND. You can obtain a business degree, but still obtain the same (almost) aviation education.
- Location. YIKES! Well, Daytona does sound better than GFK, but the cold builds character. Besides when you're preflighting as an FO somewhere...you won't even need to bring your trenchcoat.
From what I've seen...if you want to fly for a reputable scheduled organization...or close to scheduled....go to a UAA (Univ. Avit. Assoc.) school. UND or Riddle. You can't beat it.
You can and you will get a great flight education elsewhere too! You just have to be more careful! I don't mean to affend anyone..but let's get serious.
I take offense to an above comment on aviation degrees being worthless. While a business degree would be better...what do you want to do with your life?! My answer was being the best **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** aviator I could be and that meant an aviation degree.
You can always take core classes to qualify for and earn an MBA via the internet.
Let's also face the facts people, that a college degree gets you a job. But if you majored in management..you will not earn a CPA's job etc......
I don't really know why I'm going on and on...but the key is do what you think is best and kick butt.
I just wanted you to read the Flying Mag article about UND.
Later!
KISS: Keep it simple.
Read the new issue of FLYING MAG and you'll come across an article about UND!
- I wouldn't grade a school by its flying team. In fact, Riddle has a better flying team program...but who wins every year?! The team is just a group of people that work hard to win...it doesn't necessarily measure a school.
- Cost. UND vs. Riddle. UND wins hands down. PLUS you'll walk away with Instructor certificates...assuming you can earn them!
- Liberal Arts Education: UND. You can obtain a business degree, but still obtain the same (almost) aviation education.
- Location. YIKES! Well, Daytona does sound better than GFK, but the cold builds character. Besides when you're preflighting as an FO somewhere...you won't even need to bring your trenchcoat.
From what I've seen...if you want to fly for a reputable scheduled organization...or close to scheduled....go to a UAA (Univ. Avit. Assoc.) school. UND or Riddle. You can't beat it.
You can and you will get a great flight education elsewhere too! You just have to be more careful! I don't mean to affend anyone..but let's get serious.
I take offense to an above comment on aviation degrees being worthless. While a business degree would be better...what do you want to do with your life?! My answer was being the best **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** aviator I could be and that meant an aviation degree.
You can always take core classes to qualify for and earn an MBA via the internet.
Let's also face the facts people, that a college degree gets you a job. But if you majored in management..you will not earn a CPA's job etc......
I don't really know why I'm going on and on...but the key is do what you think is best and kick butt.
I just wanted you to read the Flying Mag article about UND.
Later!
N9103M and hot section
N9103M, I find your story very hard to believe. When did this take place? I was in the ASA bridge program untill it got cancelled a week before graduation. You could interview with just a commercial certificate, but you needed 50me to get hired. You also had training in the seminole with an HSI and the B1900 sim with HSI. Don't believe everything you hear.
hot section, you just dont know what you're talking about. There are plenty of other degrees to chooses from at ERAU.
N9103M, I find your story very hard to believe. When did this take place? I was in the ASA bridge program untill it got cancelled a week before graduation. You could interview with just a commercial certificate, but you needed 50me to get hired. You also had training in the seminole with an HSI and the B1900 sim with HSI. Don't believe everything you hear.
hot section, you just dont know what you're talking about. There are plenty of other degrees to chooses from at ERAU.
N9103M - I find that story very hard to believe. Those guys must have been lying, I can't believe someone went through ERAU doesn't know how to use a HSI.
Also, I think ERAU is a pretty good school. I just wouldn't go because of cost and other things mentioned above. Mostly though, I'm just picking on some of the students, especically flight team members.
Also, I think ERAU is a pretty good school. I just wouldn't go because of cost and other things mentioned above. Mostly though, I'm just picking on some of the students, especically flight team members.
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Here's a great little school I haven't heard anyone mention. Big Bend CC in Moses Lake, WA. Their pilots share the 14000+' runway with the 747 pilots trainees of JAL. Very good school if you can get in. Last I heard there was a two-year waiting list. They only take 80 pilots each year. If your goal is to be a professional pilot you cannot go wrong. Every single person that was in my class is currently either at a regional, major, corporate jet or military jets. It is also fairly inexpensive. I went from 0 time to CFII/MEI for under 18k. The senior instructors there are excellent. Several retired military guys. Not like these airline washouts you will find at UND.
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In my 1100+ hours as a CFI in the Seattle area the worst commercial pilot I ever instructed was a graduate of the Purdue flight program. He was the only pilot I have ever flown with from Purdue but he graduated from there and was flat out BAD.
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In my 1100+ hours as a CFI in the Seattle area the worst commercial pilot I ever instructed was a graduate of the Purdue flight program. He was the only pilot I have ever flown with from Purdue but he graduated from there and was flat out BAD.
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