To All Mesa Pilots

[MW44]

I heard that JO wanted to put the 737's on the Freedom certificate. I am just curious but didn't the low wage contract provide iron-clad scope so that JO couldn't pull stunts like that anymore. Not trying to flame just want to understand the situation better.

 

[bobbysamd]

Freedom list and Mesa 737s

I've seen the Freedom pilot list before. I read it with more than a degree of irony and chagrin. I know or have met at least two people on the list. One was a long-time Mesa Chief Pilot who ignored my letters for a second interview. I finally met him in person after I went to work for MAPD. I did not bring up my letters. The other was an ERAU training manager who did not see eye-to-eye with me regarding stage checks. This gentleman was a political animal.

I find it rich that Mesa would consider operating 737s. I know that has been a long-time rumor. I interviewed with Grady Reed in 1990. At that time, RJs were being developed and were featured in pilot magazines. When Mr. Reed asked if I had any questions, I asked Mr. Reed if Mesa had plans to acquire RJs. He said "no" and it was obvious that he did not appreciate my question. I believe that question led to my rejection and subsequent follow-up reconsideration requests to the aforementioned Chief Pilot. Of course, the epilogue to that story is that Mesa operates both kinds of RJs and that MAPD grads are being placed in their right seats!

Lesson learned: Don't take the bait if offered the opportunity to ask questions at an airline pilot interview. That's a subject for another thread.

 

[Beantown]

For any low time guys out there I know the thought of getting an airline job at 300hrs is your dream but think carefully. No offense, but a pilot with 300hrs total has not business being in the right seat of any sort of jet.
RJ FO from a respectable company

What do ACA, CHQ, Mesa, Pinnacle, Eagle, ASA and others have in common?...................................... In the last three years they all have hired pilots with under 600hrs from bridge programs like Flight Safty, Purdue, MAPD and ERAU. I interviewed at CHQ over a yr ago and there were guys from Purdue with 350 hrs in the class. Not looking to argue the merits, just want to make sure that everyone understands that this isn't just a Mesa thing. -Bean

 

[CitationLover]

its not just mesa

I'm pretty clueless as to the inner working of regionals, but it was a Mesa captain who didn't show up, and Mesa people at the gate that treated me like a burden. I'll pony up the extra 10% to my cost next time and fly with someone else. My time is worth something, to me at least.

how much flying have you done?!?! american pushes back delays within 15min of dept. happened to me last weekend when weather screwed things up at ohare. first the flight was delayed (i asked the desk if it was due to the plane not being able to come in and was right), next the plane shows up, but 10 min from dept they announced another 1hr delay, this time for the crew being delayed.

this happens all over the industry. wake up mesa bashers and smell what you're shoveling.

 

[bob evans]

Two things:

1) 1000 hrs doing touch and gos in cessna 172's really prepared me for 121 flying. Really, it did. Honest to god. Why would I lie?

2) If mesa starts flying 737's, it will be with pilots from the MAG seniority list under the ALPA contract, regardless of which certificate they are flown under. Scope, after all, is the only thing that is in our contract. Without scope, everything else is meaningless.

 

[cvoav8r]

huh..huh...hu...MESA SUCKS BEAVIS...huh...huh..huh..huh....yeah...yeah....kick their ass....huh..huh..huh..huh

 

[ChinaClipper]

No2bottomfeeders post...

Is why I spend less and less time here. Some sanctimonious wanker spouting off what a few other empty heads have repeated. Just because you can run the Barry Manilow fan club doesn't give you insight to say diddly to anyone about "the aviation profession". You sir have the IQ of a turnip, and if you had any cajones, you wouldn't be flying an RJ that REPLACED a Mainline jet outright. But in you own vacant thought process, you think that someone possibly undercutting YOU is bad; another "... hurray for me and to he11 with you..." self-centered nitwit. Well, I got news for ya, technically the regionals are now in the REPLACEMENT business. Nothing more. Nothing less. If you were consistent, you'd resign over the slovenly pay and bad contract you bemoan out of principal. You fly RJ's where Mainline planes once flew DIRECTLY putting a higher paid pilot out of a job. Calling you a wanker is a serious insult to the true wankers out there, dufus......

 

[climbhappy]

To: nobottomfeeder (aka fudgepacker)

you obviously don't read the press. the media has given air time in recent weks to the fact that:

customers , not mesa have caused the downward spiral in wages. ticket prices are coming down. For example, on NBC just last night Jetblue was featured for having a coast to coast $219.00 round trip.

the majors are accustomed to charging $1300 easily for such a trip.

therefore, besides being ignorant and of course a loser for wanting to stir up crap, you're an example of the mental capacity that is in fact worthy of $20.00 an hour.

ever tried mowing lawns?

 

[mckpickle]

The reason why we are upset is when the NMB comes to us durring contract segotiatins and suspends talks because he says we are asking too much. We are asking more than MESA or CHQ or MESAba.

The actions of others are directly effecting my quality of life. It is time that people be heald responsible for their actions. I carry the Freedom list and PM me if you want it. And stay the hell off my airplane asking for leftover meals!

 

[Cosmo1999]

dang man you sure seem to have a thing goin on with those crew meals. Last time I checked airplane food wasnt that great though it could be different where you work. Almost every post you make on this subject you complain about precious crew meals. Get over it, and if you need to you can get a nice little lockbox for your crew meals if they are that precious to you.

 

[mckpickle]

dang man you sure seem to have a thing goin on with those crew meals. Last time I checked airplane food wasnt that great though it could be different where you work. Almost every post you make on this subject you complain about precious crew meals. Get over it, and if you need to you can get a nice little lockbox for your crew meals if they are that precious to you.

They weren't crew meals. They were the passenger meals. And doesn't anyone else find it a bit ironic that Mesa pilots need to go ask for meals from other airplanes in order to eat. I mean for christ sake, they vote a contract in they are proud of but are pan handleing on the ramp.

If I was part of a group that voted that POS contract in I would try and have more self respect than to go looking for free food from other airplanes.

 

[I.P. Freley]

Man, can't a brutha get a bite to eat without being hollered at??

FWIW, I made a habit last summer of offering up cold Cokes and yummy pretzels to the Beech drivers standing around on a hot ramp in PIT waiting for the PSA gate jockeys to send out the pax... And didn't delineate between Mesa (AirMiddie) and Colgan Beeches, either.

PIT E-Gate Beech drivers, if you want a cool drink or wish to sink your teeth into the best pretzels money can buy (*JOKE!*), feel free to wander over to your nearest Saab. I'll hook you up.

This assumes we have ice... LOL

 

[I.P. Freley]

>>>This is why I spend less and less time here. Some sanctimonious wanker spouting off what a few other empty heads have repeated.<<<

I hear ya, china. I don't quite have the energy for this nonsense anymore. I get quite enough nonsense in the REAL world.

 

[RIDETHELIGHTING]

McD!ckhead always has his mouth open. Like he should talk he works for big MESA(AWA).

 

[captjim]

McD!ckhead always has his mouth open. Like he should talk he works for big MESA(AWA).

Pickle, when did you go to AWA? Did'nt you just hang out with my girlfriend the other night? And why was she walking so funny when she got home?