time to quit my crappy job?

[Gulfstream 200]

Bro, not a billionaire...
But alot wealthier, younger, and prettier (physically & emotionally...obviously!), than you old man...

Night night 'cause it's probably your bed time in New Jersey!

...

well....alright then!!!

 

[Corona]

Of course the career belongs to you, but quitting a flying job without another lined up these days is just plain stupid.

Maybe if you have 10 type ratings and live in a busy area you will find SOMETHING quick...but aside from that you might be SOL. Fine if you have no responsiblity - go for it....but why??? to prove its YOUR LIFE?.....um, OK , guess I dont understand GEN X.

Basically all Im saying is quit whining and concentrate on finding the better job. Yip is 100% right, its easier to be picky while you still have a job.

Stop with the Ipod, the backpack, the Ritalin, and the excuses. Your parents really do love you.

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Quitting a job before it ends your career or life isn't stupid. Seemed to be the point the original poster was driving at.

Gen-X got nothin to do with it. When you've reached the limit, you've reached the limit. Then again, I guess you could just soldier on till the wings come off...

I guess I assumed most in this goofy industry have something to fall back on.

You & Yip are right, though, it's always easier to get a job (in any career) when you have a job.

Ipod? Backpack? Ritalin? New underwear, even? If I were as rich as pilots are supposed to be, I guess I could afford those...

Cheers,
C

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Quitting a job before it ends your career or life isn't stupid. Seemed to be the point the original poster was driving at.

Gen-X got nothin to do with it. When you've reached the limit, you've reached the limit. Then again, I guess you could just soldier on till the wings come off...

I guess I assumed most in this goofy industry have something to fall back on.

You & Yip are right, though, it's always easier to get a job (in any career) when you have a job.

Ipod? Backpack? Ritalin? New underwear, even? If I were as rich as pilots are supposed to be, I guess I could afford those...

Cheers,
C

you guys need to elaborate a bit on what kind of jobs you have that are "ending your life" or "putting your life at risk"...

I have had what I considered probably some of the worse flying gigs out there....and all it gave me was incentive to get the fark outta there...ASAP. - but that seems the norm in a non-military flight career.

Sure, I totally agree that you have to be able to look yourself in the mirror and keep your sanity, but what the heck are you guys doing that brings this on???



either way, best of luck, a flying career certainly is not worth being miserable over.

 

[PlaneStupid]

Casper, If you are going to jump ship without having a lifeboat you better have at least 12 months of readily available cash (not 401K, investments etc). I agree that if it is a safety issue or you just can't respect yourself for working with said company it is not worth it. Remember the grass always appears greener on the other side of the fence and your next job you take in desperation to earn some cash may be worse than where you are. Take your time and look for something first. The industry is picking up and there are many entry level jet jobs for someone at your experience level.

Good luck

 

[casper1nine]

i didn't quit, yet. i think that i will give it just a while longer while i line up something better. time is my problem, i just can't get any time off without faking sick, maybe, to go job hunting. 7am-7pm 6 to 7 days a week is just taking too much of my time.

thanks for the constructive and the colorful advice.

-casper the mule

 

[Gulfstream 200]

i didn't quit, yet. i think that i will give it just a while longer while i line up something better. time is my problem, i just can't get any time off without faking sick, maybe, to go job hunting. 7am-7pm 6 to 7 days a week is just taking too much of my time.

thanks for the constructive and the colorful advice.

-casper the mule

"dentist appointents" and "follow ups" always work well for interviews....

oh, and 2 weeks notice?? always optional for the $hittiest jobs if you ask me...

Good Luck!

 

[casper1nine]

while it may be a $hi++y job, i am not a $hi++y employee, generally... but you are right g200.

 

[semperfido]

casper--- it is always easier to get a job if you have a job.

find a new job then give your notice and try not to burn bridges.

give serious thought to relocation...

 

[gunfyter]

I quit a flying job without anything lined up or even with a resume dusted off. It took 3 yrs to get another flying job. They wanted to know why I was not current. Well I could have had other flying jobs if I wanted to work for $2000/mo flying a 404 night freight. Or move to Fresno to fly for some regional that tanked a few months after the offer. Other bad deals.

It was a Big mistake. If I had held on, I probably would have gone directly to another flying job within 6 months or so. I could have been exactly where I am now only 3 or 4 years more senior and in a BBJ making almost 100K more.

Wish I had looked outside of aviation as well.

Good Luck.

 

[Corona]

you guys need to elaborate a bit on what kind of jobs you have that are "ending your life" or "putting your life at risk"...

I have had what I considered probably some of the worse flying gigs out there....and all it gave me was incentive to get the fark outta there...ASAP. - but that seems the norm in a non-military flight career.

Sure, I totally agree that you have to be able to look yourself in the mirror and keep your sanity, but what the heck are you guys doing that brings this on???



either way, best of luck, a flying career certainly is not worth being miserable over.

Overworked pilots are at high risk of losing their lives. I don't think that's a revelation in this age.

It also does make a huge difference which operation you work for. Some places are capable of ending good pilot's careers, either through incompetence or plain malicious action. I've personally seen it happen. The difference is a good place watches your back; the bad ones are looking at your back in a whole different manner.

I have never had a problem looking at the 'ol reflection because I've never sunk to the level of some of my former managers. But you don't have to get caught up in the tangled web for it to affect you. Sorry, I won't go into details here about the latest idiots I worked for.

C

 

[Gulfstream 200]

Corona -

If someone is letting their employer work them to the point where it is "putting their LIFE at risk" -- they have NO business being in ANY aircraft period. ever.

we have all told rotten bosses "sorry, I cant" and stuck our necks out in the interest of Safety. Its the nature of the business. If one doesn't have the balls to do this they have no need to be in any cockpit.

Aviation Golden Rule - look out for #1

 

[fokkers&beer]

If the jobs bad enough leave. I could'nt leave my previous employer fast enough, but we had maintenence issues. I left with nothing lined up and fared alright. Drained my savings however.

 

[mach none]

One of my best friends quit an airline job where we where both working. He had nothing lined up, just some faint prospects. He lucked out after one job propect dried up and got hired at Conagra. He is very happy and works with some great people in BOI. VERY LUCKY.

He was very lucky and it was before 9/11. I would have something lines up before you give your notice. Times are tough and extremely competitive.

Did I say he was Very Lucky?

 

[English]

I have two friends at Conagra. They're both really happy there, too.

I quit Aloha without having a job formally lined up. I knew my former employer wanted me back, and we had a handshake agreement, but no formal offer or start date. It played out just like I thought it would, but I spent a week and had some back up plans in place, just in case.

 

[av8tor4239]

I have a word of advice from first hand experience..

You will have more leverage to find a good job if you do your searching while you are still employed, no matter how much you hate it.

I was furloughed for a year, and when you have very limited income you become desparate and you will want to take the first job that comes your way (like I did, now look at me ) So give your self some leverage and do an extensive job search while you are still employed..

I would not say anything to your boss yet either.. If you can, maximize your time off, (if you have a bid system), maximize your sick calls (to the legal limit) use up all the personal days and vacation days you have left, and use all that extra time, going to interviews, job fairs, etc. When the time comes give your current employer 2 weeks and walk away!