Time for Skywest to Step Up

[BusDriver12]

fellow skywest pilots, we are key to stopping this race to the bottom, if we take another bad contract, it will mean another 10 years of taking away the good jobs we all want replacing them with the 19.00 dollar/hr 90 seat FO's while management underbids everyone else and continues the race to the bottom.

Please hold the bar up high, we need to help the whole industry and we will finally need a union to help us do this.

please do something about it and help us get one started!

 

[Bluto]

http://skywest.alpa.org

http://skywest.alpa.org
Register for information.

 

[BusDriver12]

alpa is good,

but if someone has a problem with alpa....

get some other union, teamsters, whatever... just get one! now!

 

[skyhogg]

Clarification: We do not have a "contract" at SKW...

 

[Steveair]

alpa is good,

but if someone has a problem with alpa....

get some other union, teamsters, whatever... just get one! now!

ALPA is no good and the teamsters are worse! The teamsters are the lowest people anywhere.

I'll keep my 3-6% union dues in my pocket, thank you.

 

[viper548]

Thanks Bluto

 

[theo]

fellow skywest pilots, we are key to stopping this race to the bottom, if we take another bad contract, it will mean another 10 years of taking away the good jobs we all want replacing them with the 19.00 dollar/hr 90 seat FO's while management underbids everyone else and continues the race to the bottom.

Please hold the bar up high, we need to help the whole industry and we will finally need a union to help us do this.

please do something about it and help us get one started!

Skywest has a reputation amongst most people in the industry as
being a fair place to work as well as a pleasant place to work. You
see most people there believing that a cohesive and cooperative effort
is in the best interests of the whole group.

Your stance is that all of those people are wrong and things are bad at
Skywest. Sorry but your story just doesn't sell very well in the real world.

 

[rtmcfi]

ALPA is no good and the teamsters are worse! The teamsters are the lowest people anywhere.

I'll keep my 3-6% union dues in my pocket, thank you.

Are you satisfied with this pay offer? Do you feel you are being well represented? Are you sure that union dues are as high as 6%? Have you taken the time to read some propaganda in support of unions? I assume you read the propaganda against unions on your companies website. Is that your sole source of union info?

 

[ShamH85]

I've read too much anti-ALPA posts in many forums. And this Sapa shyt aint really working out, I think considering Teamsters or someother union can't hurt. This is a huge responsibilty for the pilots at skywest, the outcome can raise the bar for regional pilots for the years to come.

 

[Bluto]

Thanks Bluto

No problem. Pass it on. Many of our people, even union supporters, apparently don't know about this website. Rumor has it, the number of registrations on this website will determine whether ALPA even supports a union drive. In other words, if we don't get people signed up, we could be finished before we even start. If you're interested, please register.

 

[Bluto]

Skywest has a reputation amongst most people in the industry as
being a fair place to work as well as a pleasant place to work. You
see most people there believing that a cohesive and cooperative effort
is in the best interests of the whole group.

Your stance is that all of those people are wrong and things are bad at
Skywest. Sorry but your story just doesn't sell very well in the real world.

I don't think anyone thinks things are "bad" at SkyWest, many of us are simply concerned about the current trend. If we wait until things are bad to do something about it, it will be far too late.

Assuming you work for SkyWest, how do you feel about the recent pay proposal? Do you consider 1.2% a reasonable rate increase? How do you feel about the forced 70-seat bid? How do you feel about being required to attend training on awarded days off for normal pay? How do you feel about being required to ride in the actual jumpseat when dead-heading? Forced PBS implementation?

Our representatives spent a great deal of time, and effort "negotiating" for what turned out to be something worse than what we were offered 10 months ago. That must be extremely frustrating for them. If this is the best SGU can do, I'd rather stick with what we have now and express my frustration (by voting no) that while our company can afford to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on a large regional, they can't afford a reasonable cost of living increase for their pilots. It wouldn't have taken much to make us feel like they were making an effort.

 

[viper548]

Even using SGU's arument that the bonus program in addition to the 1.2% makes for a pretty decent raise, that's only for pilots that have 2 years with the company. About 25% of the pilot group does not recieve any of the profit sharing. 1.2% does not cut it when you only make $19.02 an hour living in some of these domiciles we have.

 

[J32driver]

Guys... when shopping for a Union, please understand that ALPA is a great choice.

There is only one thing wrong with ALPA as a national Union... they have no collective stance on bargaining. Now... your local branch of ALPA will be fantastic as long as you put the right people in office. Plus... ALPA national has DEEP pockets when it comes time that you guys need help.

And, the last time I looked at my paycheck, ALPA dues were 2%.

 

[viper548]

Guys... when shopping for a Union, please understand that ALPA is a great choice.

There is only one thing wrong with ALPA as a national Union... they have no collective stance on bargaining. Now... your local branch of ALPA will be fantastic as long as you put the right people in office. Plus... ALPA national has DEEP pockets when it comes time that you guys need help.

And, the last time I looked at my paycheck, ALPA dues were 2%.

I think we have an idea who won't be in office at our local ALPA. There are some guys that are very anti-SAPA and pro-union. I hope they step up and run for office

 

[Puck Mugger]

I'll keep my 3-6% union dues in my pocket, thank you.

Get your facts straight Steve.

 

[Bluto]

Facts!? Why use those when I've already got my mind made up? Unfortunately, there are many SkyWest pilots with no idea about the facts regarding ALPA. It's not all wine and roses, but 6%?! Where do people get this garbage?

 

[Texx]

ALPA is no good and the teamsters are worse! The teamsters are the lowest people anywhere.

I'll keep my 3-6% union dues in my pocket, thank you.

In the first place, if your time is correct, you haven't been around long enough to form an opinion about a union.

In the second place, I doubt you would say " teamsters are the lowest people anywhere" to his or her face. They would send you on a trip to meet Jimmy Hoffa, if you're old enough to know who he was.

And third, dues are 1.95%.

 

[strega7]

There are some guys that are very anti-SAPA and pro-union. I hope they step up and run for office

And I hope some of those guys do not step up and run. We need level headed pilots in office, not people that want to fight with management because they are pissed.

 

[rtmcfi]

And I hope some of those guys do not step up and run. We need level headed pilots in office, not people that want to fight with management because they are pissed.

I'm not sure that because you are disapointed in SAPA, and want ALPA that you automatcally are a hot-head that wants to pick a fight. There is probably some middle ground to be found.

 

[OCP]

Have the guys who think that this might be a good raise actually calculated this on their own pay scale? Take what you got and multiply that by 1.012 and see just how much that really is.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

And, the last time I looked at my paycheck, ALPA dues were 2%.

...and tax deductible.

 

[viper548]

Have the guys who think that this might be a good raise actually calculated this on their own pay scale? Take what you got and multiply that by 1.012 and see just how much that really is.

I don't think it's a good raise, but let me calculate what this means for me.
$19.02 * 1.012= 19.25/hr. Let me add in the bonus that SGU says is a pay raise. Quarterly pereformance bonus= not eligable, less than 1 year employment. Profit sharing program= not eligable, less than 2 years employment.

 

[viper548]

I think I need to quit doing my MIL duty on my days off

 

[fleiger1]

...and the really sad thing is people consider the stupid bonus as part of the raise. All they did was is defer the money from the profit sharing (that went into the 401K) to the bonus program. So until everyone gets over SGUs shyt and sees the light we are only getting a 1.2% raise...

 

[homerjdispatch]

Just wondering how much of a raise a union will get? Lets say the union gets 3% raise. Then you subtract the 2% union dues and you have a 1% raise.

Did anyone see the thread on Deltas offer for pilots to fly 100 seat aircraft for LESS THAN CHQ E170 rates? Dont know if those numbers are true, but if they are, LOOK OUT BELOW!!!!!

Good luck, and I hope SKYW guys get what they need and deserve....

What would be a reasonable offer from SGU?

 

[viper548]

What would be a reasonable offer from SGU?

Cost of living increase (3%/year). Retro pay to not reward SGU for dragging their feet. An expiration date on the new agreement. Splitting the 50/70 rates, or at least specifying CL-65 to mean -200/700. As they have it now we would be agreeing to fly the -900 for the same rate as the -200.

There's a lot more on the wish list, but this is a place to start

 

[Steveair]

Get your facts straight Steve.

I do have them right but I forgot, YOU KNOW THE DUES FOR EVERY AIRLINE IN THE WORLD!!! How foolish of me... Bow down and worship Puck Mugger! ohh wait, wait, wait... 2% for some at ALPA. I have my facts just fine. Grow up and start throwing trash around... god knows there's enough on you.

 

[Bluto]

Steve, name a single ALPA carrier that has dues of 6% if you think your facts are straight.

Homer, do you consider a 1.2% raise sufficient? What would youconsider reasonable?

 

[viper548]

How does the cost of living in SGU compare to MRY, SAN, SBA, LAX, PSP, FAT, SMF, SBP, and PDX? How much has the cost of living gone up in SGU compared to these places in the last 5 years?

 

[homerjdispatch]

Bluto,

Not at all. But thats all every other department in the company got. I hope you guys get a lot more. Then we can try and get more too!

I think anything that doesn't keep up with inflation a slap in the face. We got slapped last year. We got 1.5%. PM me and I will give you all the details. It wasn't pretty.