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Thumbs up Mr. 90 seat RJ guy...

rausda27

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http://www.abc4.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=d0882f08-7a5b-4555-9088-57e9e7cad0ca

SALT LAKE CITY (ABC 4 News) - A U.S. Airways jet full of passengers made an emergency landing in Salt Lake City on Friday after the plane's windshield shattered to pieces.

A Canadian journalist was on board and took pictures of the plane's cockpit and windshield after it landed. One of the photos showed a relieved pilot giving the "thumbs-up" sign, with the shattered glass in front of him after landing.

The twin-engined regional jet was on a flight from Edmonton to Phoenix when the windshield suddenly shattered. Pilots immediately requested an emergency landing at Salt Lake International Airport late Friday morning.

No one was hurt, and passengers boarded other flights to continue on their journeys later in the day. The plane remained on the tarmac at Salt Lake International Airport for repairs late into Friday afternoon. There were 87 passengers and 3 crew members on board.

The cause of the broken windshield is under FAA investigation.
 

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I am going with 86 passengers and 4 crew but hey what do I know.
 

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Note to self:

Some people on flightinfo are caustic malcontents.

rausda27,

My first thought was "I'm glad everyone was ok." Your's was apparently something else.

-Goose
 

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Some people need to get other jobs and get out of this industry, it's eating them to pieces!
 

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Some people need to get other jobs and get out of this industry, it's eating them to pieces!
I agree I have been off for a month now, it was great. Did not miss a football game, got drunk in normal ways, didn't have to listen to someone tell me they know someone that knows someone, and most importantly did not have to act like I even come close to caring about the 2 waitress in the back. It will be hard to go back this week.
 

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Mesa Sucks!
 

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Goose,

My post and its title is not a double entendre, euphemism, pun, spoonerism nor was it a play on words. It was simply a title that was pertinent to the article itself.

I would rather you did not make assumptions on the semantics and denotation of the title of this post.

If anyone is a "caustic malcontent", I would suggest you look in the mirror.

Fondly,
rausda27
 
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I agree I have been off for a month now, it was great. Did not miss a football game, got drunk in normal ways, didn't have to listen to someone tell me they know someone that knows someone, and most importantly did not have to act like I even come close to caring about the 2 waitress in the back. It will be hard to go back this week.


hahaha...well said
 

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My post and its title is not a double entendre, euphemism, pun, spoonerism nor was it a play on words. It was simply a title that was pertinent to the article itself.

Well, if you say so. Unfortunately on an internet website, we are all subject to the disadvantage of not being able to read tone of voice and body language. So I apologize for misconstrueing your intent. However, I will add that, judging from some of the "caustic" posts that followed yours, your title probably wasn't worded as well as it could have been if you, as you say, wanted to genuinely give a "thumbs up" to the crew.

If anyone is a "caustic malcontent", I would suggest you look in the mirror.

I tried that, but all I saw was a guy who likes his job. Seems a little odd that I'd be called a "caustic malcontent" for sticking up for a flight crew, but then again this is flightinfo.

apathetically,
Goose
 
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Does that guy in the picture scream Mesa or what....if Carlos Mencia were a pilot, he'd say "deeeeett deee deee!"
 

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I guess no one told the journalist that a cracked windscreen (the outer non-structural part is the part that usually cracks) really isn't that big a deal.
 

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I guess no one told the journalist that a cracked windscreen (the outer non-structural part is the part that usually cracks) really isn't that big a deal.

I wasn't really comfortable staring at one once. I was the only pilot on board, and it is the second time I asked the signature line of my posts. Things get rather busy descending out of the FLs to an approach with a spiderwebbed windscreen a foot from your nose.

Not a big deal? Okay.
 

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I wasn't really comfortable staring at one once. I was the only pilot on board, and it is the second time I asked the signature line of my posts. Things get rather busy descending out of the FLs to an approach with a spiderwebbed windscreen a foot from your nose.

Not a big deal? Okay.

Now if you're the only pilot and it's the windscreen you have to look through, then yea, that's a big problem. I've had two, and they weren't a big deal.
 

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The checklist for this doesn't say anything about landing at the nearest suitable airport interestingly enough. I had a windshield do the exact same thing and we returned to the field because we were in the process of climbing out. The thing that startled me at the time was the big bang it made when it shattered. But later on there were some tests done on this windshield by Bombardier I think and it is plenty strong. The shattering is typically caused by improper installation. This really didn't deserve the press it got. It's not a big deal. A little unnerving when it happens, yes. Dangerous, no.
 

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The windshield is the strongest part of the frame on the RJ. There are several layers and it's not uncommon for one to do that.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Travel/story?id=2884854 said:
The Mystery of the Cracked Airplane Windshields

FAA Investigators Are Trying to Determine Why So Many Windshields in Denver Have Cracked

Feb. 18, 2007 —

Investigators at the Denver International Airport are trying to figure out why the windshields on at least 13 planes have cracked.
Winds reaching up to 100 miles-per-hour have been whipping through the Colorado foothills, but airport officials say they've never seen anything like this. The weather was so cold and windy this weekend that parts of Colorado's Interstate 70 were in a near whiteout, and some ski areas closed lifts.
On the tarmac and in flight, the weather has had damaging affects on airplane windshields.
"This is not only unusual, I know of no precedent for anything like this where multiple windshields have been cracked, simply by being in a particular place at a particular time," said John Nance, a pilot and aviation consultant for ABC News.

Birds, Weather Can Be Destructive

Aircraft windshields are designed to withstand air pressure at 400 knots and survive hitting a bird without catastrophic failure. But occasionally, they crack, and the pilots land as soon as practical.
"The two most likely causes of cracked windshields are simply the internal heat system being misapplied or not heating uniformly or having a bird hit it at a really high rate of speed in the air," Nance explained.
Cracks often are caught while the plane is on the ground. They can be terrifying when they happen in the air. The Federal Aviation Administration has records of 20 in-flight cracking incidents since 1982, 12 of them on commercial airliners.
Two years ago, when Oprah Winfrey's private jet suffered a cracked windshield after hitting a bird on takeoff. One of the most infamous cases of cracked windshields occurred in 1990, when a windshield panel blew out on a British Airways flight, nearly sucking the pilot out the window. The plane was still able to fly.
"It's certainly not going to destroy the airplane and it's not going to make it un-flyable," Nance said.
The FAA is investigating the Denver cases of cracked windshields because there have been so many of them, but all the affected jets are expected to be back in service today.


Copyright © 2008 ABC News Internet Ventures

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http://www.wpbf.com/news/15183797/detail.html said:
Plane Makes Emergency Landing After Windshield Shatters

Passengers, Crew Treated For Injuries


POSTED: 9:37 am EST January 31, 2008

WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. -- An emergency landing at Palm Beach International Airport of an American Airlines flight was caused by a faulty windshield heater that filled the plane's cockpit with smoke, authorities said.

The Boeing 757 flight 1738 left from San Juan, Puerto Rico, and was heading to Philadelphia Wednesday night when it was forced to land at Palm Beach International Airport at 9:08 p.m.

Palm Beach County Fire-Rescue spokesman Capt. Don DeLucia told WPBF News 25 that the pilot decided to make the emergency landing after a faulty windshield heater caused an electrical fire and filled the cockpit with heat and smoke. DeLucia said the heat of the fire caused the inner layer of the plane's windshield to shatter and that shards of the glass had fallen onto and injured the co-pilot. DeLucia told WPBF that the pilot was careful in his descent to keep the outer layer of glass intact.
The plane was carrying 132 passengers and seven crew members, according to American Airlines spokeswoman Mary Frances Fagan.

DeLucia told WPBF that seven people were treated for injuries, including two passengers, the plane's pilot, co-pilot and three flight attendants. DeLucia said that their injuries were not considered life-threatening.

The other 130 passengers on the flight who were uninjured were given the option of staying the night in West Palm Beach or finishing their trip on a plane flown in from Fort Lauderdale. Fagan said that the replacement flight landed in Philadelphia around 4:30 a.m. Thursday.

A check of The Federal Aviation Administration's database reveals no previous damage incidents with the plane, WPBF reported.
 
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2 types of CRJ pilots. Those that have had a windshield shatter and those that will have one shatter. (kinda like flap failure).. Its just part of CRJ life. Bombardier has been trying to fix these problems for years, but they still happen.
 

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it cracked because they were flying to close to the birds!
 
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