Thoughts on LIDO

[propsarebest]

OK, does anyone else here use LIDO for their charts and plates? We have been using them here at EZ since May, and although they at first were a little weird, i must say that I like them WAY better than Jepp. Anyone care to comment?


They are VERY colorful, and the enroute charts are MUCH easier to read.


Discuss.

 

[ss9e]

we've been using them for over a year now and i still can't stand them. you have to look at 3 different charts to find the information that's on a single jepp chart. now we're testing the lido flight planning system. i hate it also. jepp is an all around superior product.

 

[ASA_DISPATCHER]

I completly agree with ss9e! We used to have them at B6 and after a few months with LIDO they went back to Jepps. There were many instances that we found there were missing Fixes on the enroute charts, we hated them! It was definitively a waste of money!

 

[propsarebest]

Yea, we have found a couple of missing fixes, especially in the middle east...
It seems that wherever LH doesn't fly, the info is kind of spotty.

Lido though, has been very helpful. A call to the Nort American rep will get it fixed in the next revision. I forgot the guys name, but he is based in MEM(shocker).

The crews like not having to carry around all the jepps. We keep a set on each airplane.

 

[propsarebest]

Ohh, by the way, they cost 1/3 of what Jepp charges.

 

[405]

There's too many typo errors on the Lido charts. VOR freqs being incorrect for example. They need more attention to detail. You'd think Germans would be more inclined to get this kind of stuff correct.

 

[405]

we've been using them for over a year now and i still can't stand them. you have to look at 3 different charts to find the information that's on a single jepp chart. now we're testing the lido flight planning system. i hate it also. jepp is an all around superior product.

How is the testing going for the flight planning system? What is the general opinion?

 

[Pull To Guns]

How is the testing going for the flight planning system? What is the general opinion?

I am interested in this also.

Where I am at now, we use Jepp Jet Planner/Ops Control and I think it sux due to the intense amount of manual data entry and "busy work". It's like reinventing the wheel everyday. The regional I was previously at used Sabre and everything was point-and-click. I lost my typing skills as they were not required.

My current airline is looking at LIDO and I wonder if anyone knows how they compare.

 

[ss9e]

How is the testing going for the flight planning system? What is the general opinion?

the powers that be are already sold. the dispatchers that have tested it seem to like it except for the interface.

 

[WarnerNo13]

Yea, we have found a couple of missing fixes, especially in the middle east...
It seems that wherever LH doesn't fly, the info is kind of spotty.

Lido though, has been very helpful. A call to the Nort American rep will get it fixed in the next revision. I forgot the guys name, but he is based in MEM(shocker).

The crews like not having to carry around all the jepps. We keep a set on each airplane.

Dude I still have that damn surround sound and Xbox you made me buy. I heard that proofreading for these charts was outsourced to Mexico.

 

[propsarebest]

True, true...

But you have to admit that the surround sound is BADASS!

and I didn't make you buy the XBOX, just the 5.1...

 

[WarnerNo13]

True, true...

But you have to admit that the surround sound is BADASS!

and I didn't make you buy the XBOX, just the 5.1...

Ya it sounds alright. I believe I was just gonna give the whole thing up then u egged on the surround to go with the Xbox. Damn you.

 

[rod guhzhinya]

I completly agree with ss9e! We used to have them at B6 and after a few months with LIDO they went back to Jepps. There were many instances that we found there were missing Fixes on the enroute charts, we hated them! It was definitively a waste of money!

what up McQ...I agree, they sucked!!! how you been?

 

[sinkrate]

we've been using them for over a year now and i still can't stand them. you have to look at 3 different charts to find the information that's on a single jepp chart. now we're testing the lido flight planning system. i hate it also. jepp is an all around superior product

According to LIDO their paper charts are only intended to be used as the required paper back up for the EFB data bases they supply. Those data bases are only for use by AC with equiped with FMS/INS/GPS equipment. That did not stop 9E from using them as a 'stand alone' chart product. The LIDO data bases that are installed in FMS's have a lot of problems. The Swiss simply still do not understand the US RNAV SID/STAR procedures. We have pilots violated weekly because of it. These charts are only for FMS AC. They do not depict radial/dme information and cannot be used by VOR/DME only equipped AC.

On the dispatch side the charts are missing a lot of information you need to plan or dispatch a flight. LIDO acknowledges that and has replied that a chart system is not a planning system. They have no plans to include that information on charts. If you want to flight plan you must also buy their dispatch system. 9E has put some, but not all of that information on company specific pages. After 10pm half the alternates I am given are not legal. I have resorted to printing the NOS alternate requirement pages and carry them with me.

 

[ss9e]

The Swiss simply still do not understand the US RNAV SID/STAR procedures.

lido is german.

 

[405]

Lido FlightNav is based in Switzerland.

 

[ss9e]

lido is owned/operated by lufthansa. lufthansa is german.

 

[405]

I never said Lido was Swiss, ss9e.