Those who QUIT NetJets.....

[Guitar rocker]

I quit NJ to fly for Air Somali out of Auburn, ME. They got some nice new BE-99's (202BH and 207BH) and fly all over trying to relocate em to bring more and more diversity to Maine. It's a top notch operation. The planes are well maintained and are restocked with turmites as they all hold hands together to keep the ship from falling apart. Either that or get a new wing spar.

 

[DO-82 driver]

Yeah...and I heard Uncle Al had the 99's retro fitted with lavs for the high ranking Somali elders.....granted its a box of sand but that should make them feel right at home.

 

[CA1900]

Only thing he was not to happy about was the union rep they met during their indoc. Thought he was a bit abrassive.

So he quit the job because one union rep he met, out of a company of over 2600 unionized pilots, was abrasive? I'm sorry, but there has to be more to the story than that.

He moved to Hawaii with his wife. He would have stayed with Netjets had he been homebased.

Well, there you go; he wanted to move to Hawaii. He could not have been home based in Hawaii with NJA, even if he had gotten home basing.

His wife agreed on moving to Hawaii but was not going to go to CMH and then being alone for a week at a time. This, by the way, is what keeps me away as well.

Not to be blunt, but why the hell did he take the job, then, knowing full well that where he was going to be based wasn't workable? It's not like an airline, where you don't know. The domicile is part of the initial job offer; I waited many months to interview because I wanted to be based in Florida. I hope he hadn't already wasted simulator training, at least.

I guess I'll have to wait untill someone figures out that it is probally a lot cheaper to have someone fly from Atlanta or Charlotte than from CMH.

Yep, exactly. I'm not sure why they're holding onto this "bargaining chip" until contract time -- we all know it's costing them money, and I'm not willing to give up a thing we already have to get home basing.

 

[Diesel]

GR common we know you just fuel the planes. Now run off and let the big boys talk the talk. By the way our favorite rep says hi.

 

[NetjetsFalcon]

I've only moved up 51 numbers since 11/94!

 

[CE750Driver]

Did you mean 9/99?

1 have moved up 125 since 5/99.

No Gun, I meant 108 since I was hired in 09/1998.
Since you were hired after me, obviously more people in between us quit.
Not that difficult.

 

[CE750Driver]

My original post stands, old*art claims he is in his 8th year and less than 50 have quit in front of him. Im in the middle of my 8th year and have had over 100....... Somethings wrong there.

 

[popgoesbubble]

Do you Guys think we should all be filling out Waste management reports on This? If you think about it, look how much money they are wasting away giving FREE types to all! This is only gonna hurt us in the next round!

 

[gunfyter]

No Gun, I meant 108 since I was hired in 09/1998.
Since you were hired after me, obviously more people in between us quit.
Not that difficult.

OK it was the 8th yr that threw me off. I am starting yr 9 and you are already yr 9.

 

[Guitar rocker]

GR common we know you just fuel the planes. Now run off and let the big boys talk the talk. By the way our favorite rep says hi.

And clean em too! Yah, shes doing OK sound like. She needs to find herself someone fun.

 

[p3hawk]

Hired in Feb.'06, #2345 now my number is 2249. 96 numbers in 14 months, hoping to upgrade into anything in 10/08. we'll see


Cheers P3hawk
DA2000 sic

 

[Archie Bunker]

Ok...back to original topic.......

I was hired in May '06, and resigned in Jan '07. The primary reason for my departure was being hired by UPS. When I was hired, I was prepared to stay with NJA for the long haul. I had no intention of collecting a free type rating, and then taking off for the next best thing. I quit a job with a legacy carrier to start at NJA. In fact, the only two companies that I would have left NJA for were UPS and FedEx....pretty tough companies to get on with right now.

The domicile system was in full swing when I was hired, and I was fully aware of what I was getting myself into. I didn't like it, but I was prepared to deal with it until the next contract. If I had the benefit of HBA, my commute to the airport would have been 10 minutes instead of the 2-3 hours it took me to drive to LAX. I know that my commute to LAX was nothing compared to what some new-hires are dealing with now.....it was more of an annoyance to me than anything. Would HBA have been enough to keep me at NJA? With any other company besides UPS and FedEx, yes....and it would have made me think about it with those two companies...something I didn't have to do with the current domicile system in place. Bottom line, I couldn't turn up my nose to UPS. The earnings potential there is much higher than I could ever hope for at NJA. That being said, I really enjoyed my time at NJA. I consider it a top notch company, with great benefits, and solid job security.

 

[BigC208]

To 1900, He took the job because the folks at Jalways where slow. I think it took about 6 months from passing his tests there and a firm job offer. In the meantime he went for NJA to make sure he had something to fall back on incase Jalways did not come thru. He never did the sim. Last day of indoc he heard he had the job in Hawaii. He was so impressed with NJA though that he did have to give it a good long thought. The domicile situation pushed him in the direction he went. He's normally pretty stoic and not one for much hyperbole, so when he said he was impressed with NJA I know he meant it. He also had a firm class date with Jet Blue and let that slide for NJA. The fact that there was that union rep that came across a bit bullish had nothing to do with him not taking the job in the end. I personally think that a lot of the ex Indy captains will bail the moment they find something else more up their alley. NJA is a great place for a lot of guys to get a free type, pay their mortgages for the time being, and move when that job with the outlook for a quick upgrade comes along.

 

[jtf]

I talked to a guy who went to Skybus (it was a move up from the crap hole he was at) and he told me at least 8 NJA guys who were ex Indy signed on for Skybus CA slots. I guess some guys just can't get the airlines out of the system. Unfortunately they were all junior to me, but at least it helped out everyone who is here who was behind them.

 

[Guitar Guy]

I talked to a guy who went to Skybus (it was a move up from the crap hole he was at) and he told me at least 8 NJA guys who were ex Indy signed on for Skybus CA slots. I guess some guys just can't get the airlines out of the system.

It will be interesting to see if any of those guys feel differently about airline flying after a year or so of working for Skybus. Working for an airline that bills itself as the "ultra low fare" carrier doesn't sound particularly inviting to me.

 

[172driver]

It will be interesting to see if any of those guys feel differently about airline flying after a year or so of working for Skybus. Working for an airline that bills itself as the "ultra low fare" carrier doesn't sound particularly inviting to me.

Sounds like hell on earth to me. They are modeling their company after Ryanair which makes not only their customers, but their crews, pay for water, coffee, soda, snacks, etc. Not a good indicator of a friendly, positive work environment in my eyes. But at least their Airbus captains are making $65,000, FO's $35,000, and FA's a whopping $9/hr plus commission on drinks and snacks. Yikes!

 

[Guitar rocker]

DO-82..........I just got canned at Air Somali for leavin ham sandwiches on the "airliner." I could use some help getting back to NJ though.......I never thought that this would happen. It was a top notch operation.

 

[acaTerry]

3rd year and still sold on the place. We've got a few problems, but overall its the way they treat us (fatigue policy, health plan, sick without getting fired, etc) that keep me here. Not to mention, I don't have to fly a plane all day with 19 orange stickers in the cockpit.
Each contract things will get beteer each time, we have REAL representation here, not a limp-rod MEC like a lot (not all) of the airlines do.

 

[Diesel]

Guitar I just flew into the norhtern outstation on Rt. 4... you know the really short one. Looks like air somali is flying into there now and going to set up a crew base.

 

[Grizz]

So he quit the job because one union rep he met, out of a company of over 2600 unionized pilots, was abrasive? I'm sorry, but there has to be more to the story than that.

I guess you completely underestimate my ability to piss folks off.