This is not right!

[Einstein]

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RIDETHELIGHTING read this, and this is just one part of Mexico you guys are invading, got to Cabo San Lucas. Stay home and enjoy paying those high prices for your houses, for 30 years, you buying here does not benefit the regular Mexican citizen, because while you're here, you also don't pay taxes.
About breaking laws, every year we have thousands of spring breakers coming in here and wanting to do what ever they want over here, breaking our laws constantly. Chugging a beer a day, cause they are limited in money does not really add anything to our economy. So maybe we should round all spring breakers that are drinking and pissing on the street drunk, have them stay in jail a couple of days and then return them back home. When he's back home make him do what all illegals do 10 hours a day below 102 degree weather. I don't think so, you need us and we need you, alter something along the way and a hell will break loose.

A few thounsand spring breakers enjoying the beaches of Mexico and pumping millions into your sorry economy is something you should be thankful for. Mexico for the most part is a third world country being run by a few elite. It is corrupt as corrupt can get. I have flown all over Mexico and the best thing I loved about it was getting back to the U.S.A. I do feel for your people though. They are kind, hard working and being taken advantage of by everyone in power in government and by the Catholic church. No wonder they want to come here. If I had to live my life in that sewer you call Mexico City, I would become an illegal immigrant myself. The problem is, they are breaking our laws by invading our country. They are in our schools, our health system, our prisons and they pay absolutly nothing in return. This is my country and I don't want them here. End of story. I would say another 300 million of my fellow country men would agree.

 

[Vaquero]

It hurts don't it when you see it from another's view. Downtown ghetto's in most U.S.cities are not much to envy for most of us abroad. Driving 20 miles just to get to a Mall at 3.00 Dlls a gallon is no much to envy. Living on 4 credit cards is not much to envy. Paying loans all your life is not much to envy. Living on 3 months of summer and 9 of winter, blizzards, 102 degree weather is not much to envy. Being watched closely by government is not much to envy. So think about it, not everyone wants to go down there except these indigent, dark skinned frijoles.
Watch the protests today, and count the amount of white people protesting. We the middle/upper class just want to go up there a couple of days, do some shopping(contibute to your MADE IN CHINA economy), eat at Fuddrecker's and come back to our beloved Mexico.

 

[Dizel8]

We the middle/upper class just want to go up there a couple of days, do some shopping(contibute to your MADE IN CHINA economy), eat at Fuddrucker's and come back to our beloved Mexico.

Well, great, then we agree. You stay south of the border and we will stay north. Although, you also have to agree with taking all of your illegal countrymen with you.

Of course, once the illegals leave the US, there will be no more gringo dollars coming south, so your economy will probably collapse, but that is just how it goes and you should be willing to accept that.

Now, we gringos do need labor, but we will control it, tax it and make sure they are not criminals and we will make sure they winter in Mexico.

Now go fly the mexican flag and tell Fox to enforce your border!

 

[Phaedrus]

and by the Catholic church.

Argh. The evil Catholic Church. Proof please.

 

[Lear70]

Not everyone. Otherwise an Afghani that was popped with a .50BMG could sue in federal court for "cruel and unusual punishment".

Everyone who is INSIDE THE CONTIGUOUS U.S. BORDERS is entitled to the protections set forth in the Bill of Rights.

We extend those rights on the basis that everything else in our legal system is based on: the idea of equality and that everyone is entitled to the same rights, privileges, and protections, until the point they prove they are no longer worthy to enjoy those rights, privileges, and protections (i.e. they commit a crime, such as violating an immigration law).

However, you have to PROVE they have violated that law, which takes a COURT OF LAW to do, hence why they have the right to assembly and the freedom of speech to carry out their PEACEFUL demonstration. They technically COULD round everyone up while they're down there and make them prove their citizenship, deporting those who are here illegally, but then you look like a totalitarian government by doing it during an exercise of their constitutional rights (assembly and speech again).

No way for the White House to win this one.

Incidentally, you guys who don't like Mexico can speak for yourselves. I've been researching Mexico beach property for a while now; while not as good as that article link paints the prices, it's still cheap as hell! My next house is going to be beachfront vacation property in Mexico where I plan to spend most of my winters commuting to and from work. It's only a 4 1/2 hour flight, a 30 minute drive to/from the airport, customs is relatively quick, and nothing beats a beachfront 2,500 square foot 4 bedroom home with 300 feet of beachfront area on 2 acres with a pool for $150,000, plus $100 bucks a month for round-the-clock maid and grounds service.


I agree we need to stem the influx of workers, and I 100% agree that we need to deny ALL illegal immigrants access to social services and government assistance, just have to make the government DO it rather than put bandaids on the problem every time it comes up.

 

[atafan]

I want to get something straight.

I love traveling to Mexico and I love the Mexican People, I have always been treated exceptionally well while in Mexico and the work ethic, especially at the airports, is to be admired. This is not the issue!

The issue is sovereignty, Mexico protects theirs much better than we do. Americans have become soft and spineless. I welcome Mexican immigrants but they have got to go through the proper legal channels like every other country. If you break our laws you are a criminal and should be dealt with accordingly. I'm not talking prison but there has to be a penalty paid for breaking our laws before we can even begin to discuss a path to citizenship and only after the borders are sealed.

 

[Vaquero]

Well, great, then we agree. You stay south of the border and we will stay north. Although, you also have to agree with taking all of your illegal countrymen with you.

Of course, once the illegals leave the US, there will be no more gringo dollars coming south, so your economy will probably collapse, but that is just how it goes and you should be willing to accept that.

Now, we gringos do need labor, but we will control it, tax it and make sure they are not criminals and we will make sure they winter in Mexico.

Now go fly the mexican flag and tell Fox to enforce your border!

No, now that you have them, you hired them, you can keep them. Like I said before we don't want them back. It is your resposibilty being how all throught history you have come down and descriminated, corrupted most of our governments. Who do you think sold weapons to most of the Generals here in Mexico, during the revolution's pre and post era. All this to have them on your side, either for gaining some kind of treaty or land. This pretty much goes on today, but, more at a corparate, capitalist level, limiting Mexico's growth.
Some of these illegals might claim that most of this land that they are working once belonged to them and in a way was taken from them by means of corruption or a very generous bribe.
Along with those mexican illegals that i'll bring back, i'll also bring back the lega limmigrants, the Irish, Italian, Brits etc. I'll also ask them to take all the money out of the Stock Market and to bring the business they started back home with them, then we will see who's economy collapses. Mexico has a 9 billion per quarter revenue in crude oil about a 28 billion a year in tourisms revenue, while i'm sure a decrease in money sent back home from these frijoles will hurt, i'm sure it would not cause a total colapse, in comparison to taking all immigrants out of the States. I mean look at Miami, most $800,000 condos and businesses are owned by immigrants.
So next time you fly over Mexico thank it for being the way it is, because if it were any better than maybe you woul'nt have all the things you've got today.

 

[Mosquito]

My 2 cents

As an Hispanic American who came here legally, and worked my way to become an American Citzen. I believe that these protest will do more harm then good. I admire that they are using the freedoms of speech to voice there opinion and uniting together, but they are forgetting one things. Illgal Immigrants can not vote!!! I believe the majority of the voting public already made up there minds. I believe that SOME of the Migrant that are here to support thier family back, home and they don't care about become US citzen. They will leave after they have enough money to go back home with. If they want to be US citzen they must apply like the rest of us and have a clean record.

Another thing WHY ARE WE PICKING ON MEXICO and MEXICAN!!!! There are illgal Asian, Eurpoeans, Brazillian, Dominicans, etc.... Please don't pick on one group.

Also THE US ANTHEM MUST BE ENGLISH ONLY.

 

[Vaquero]

I cannot speak for you, but no way in hell would I buy property in Mexico. Their government is way to corrupt. Most of the beachfront property you see down there that is developed was developed by American investors and then sold to Mexican interest. The Mexican government does not like non Mexicans controlling Mexican territory. You buy and build it and they will find some way to take it away from you for Pesos on the dollar.

What is that your smoking?

 

[PurpleInMEM]

An open letter...

As an Hispanic American who came here legally, and worked my way to become an American Citzen. I believe that these protest will do more harm then good. I admire that they are using the freedoms of speech to voice there opinion and uniting together, but they are forgetting one things. Illgal Immigrants can not vote!!! I believe the majority of the voting public already made up there minds. I believe that SOME of the Migrant that are here to support thier family back, home and they don't care about become US citzen. They will leave after they have enough money to go back home with. If they want to be US citzen they must apply like the rest of us and have a clean record.

Another thing WHY ARE WE PICKING ON MEXICO and MEXICAN!!!! There are illgal Asian, Eurpoeans, Brazillian, Dominicans, etc.... Please don't pick on one group.

Also THE US ANTHEM MUST BE ENGLISH ONLY.

Dear Protesters...

Thank you!

Thank you for reinforcing every stereotype I've ever heard about you, but never had evidence of. Thank you for creating an air of hostility the likes of which this country hasn't seen since the Vietnam War. Thank you for making me realize that you threaten the sanctity of this nation and its rightful people. Thank you for waking me up to the reality that I'm no longer represented by my elected officials. Most of all, thank you for making me afraid.

End birthright citizenship!

National language now!

...now where did I leave my MP5?

 

[WMUSIGPI]

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RIDETHELIGHTING read this, and this is just one part of Mexico you guys are invading, got to Cabo San Lucas. Stay home and enjoy paying those high prices for your houses, for 30 years, you buying here does not benefit the regular Mexican citizen, because while you're here, you also don't pay taxes.
About breaking laws, every year we have thousands of spring breakers coming in here and wanting to do what ever they want over here, breaking our laws constantly. Chugging a beer a day, cause they are limited in money does not really add anything to our economy. So maybe we should round all spring breakers that are drinking and pissing on the street drunk, have them stay in jail a couple of days and then return them back home. When he's back home make him do what all illegals do 10 hours a day below 102 degree weather. I don't think so, you need us and we need you, alter something along the way and a hell will break loose.

That's why Cancun was busting hump to get things cleaned up after the hurricane so it would be ready to host all the spring breakers. And made sure to advertize that all over America so all the kids would know that they were open for their business.
Guess where the majority of US paper currency is, It's OUTSIDE the US. Much of it from immigrants and illegals working here and sending everything they can back to thier families still living where they came from. Without the illegals here sending money back to Mexico the Mexican economy would be severly impacted.

 

[IXLR8]

I agree

Also THE US ANTHEM MUST BE ENGLISH ONLY.

Correct.

 

[Vaquero]

That's why Cancun was busting hump to get things cleaned up after the hurricane so it would be ready to host all the spring breakers. And made sure to advertize that all over America so all the kids would know that they were open for their business.
Guess where the majority of US paper currency is, It's OUTSIDE the US. Much of it from immigrants and illegals working here and sending everything they can back to thier families still living where they came from. Without the illegals here sending money back to Mexico the Mexican economy would be severly impacted.

Yes, true but also for it to be ready for the Canadians, Europeans and the nationals that started their vacations in March, not doing so would be stupid. I'm just saying that in a way Cancun has cheapened thanks to the spring brakers. Now most tourists head towards other Riviera locations such as Playa del Carmen.
I know i hate to fly and stay in Cancun when these punks are in town. They dirty our streets, throw trash, bribe our authorities and worst of all don't spend that much by eating street tacos and cheap beer all day.
I do agree that if there is a significant decrease in money sent from families in the U.S.,the economy would slump, but not as much as before due to our smart economic resposibility that has matured since President Fox came to office. Our national reserves are strong and interest levels from other countries is strong giving us a greater margin from an economic tragedy. But, our economy is not dependent as much as yours to immigrants, therefore, take all the immigrants(legal or illegal), and their money out of the U.S. and you can kiss your American dream goodbye.

 

[scangadah]

How are you going to close and secure the borders? If you close them then most of your economy will tumble,

Answer: A-10's 20 passes and no more running the fence.


So the lady that cleans my crappy hotel room is the key to the US economy? I think not!

 

[Booyakasha!]

Did my part and spent $200.

 

[pipejockey]

I think the INS should have been out in full force arresting anyone who could not show a government issue ID. Give them a few days while they are in jail to provide proof of their citizenship, if not, then back to Mexico or wherever else their country of origin is.

You know it's not the 1800's or early 1900's when this country needed people in it to grow it into a prosperous nation. We now have 300 million people in this country not including all the illegals so my question is when do we close the floodgates, illegal or legal it doesn't matter. Shut the doors.

Population growth is an exponential curve. Take a look at it and tell me how long this world has for people to live as well off as they live now, consuming the natural resources at the pace we now consume them. It can't be sustained and something needs to be done! The first thing is to protect our borders and end immigration except for those foreigners that come here for the best education at our best colleges and wish to use their newfound education and intellect to better the good ole US of A. Not these clowns that flood over and the best they can provide us is cheap labor!

 

[AC560]

Personally I think the US Military should be dispatched to the border with orders to shoot to kill anyone attempting to cross illegally into the country. I pay a lot in tax dollars for all these tanks, planes, and soldiers to defend me it doesn’t make a lot of sense to me to not be using them. Circle a couple AC-130’s on the northern and southern borders every night and we will achieve much better results then any wall we build will.

Also this constant banter of the economic effects of getting rid of illegal labor is silly as well. Yes costs on some goods will go up because we will have to pay a higher wage to American workers. Tax revenues though will go up because these workers will pay taxes and government spending will decrease (or more then likely be spent elsewhere because we never spend less) because all the benefits we provide illegal aliens such as schooling, medical, etc. will be eliminated. Not to mention we will keep roughly $200B a year in the US as opposed to exporting it to Mexico.

If illegal aliens want to march in protest I suggest they start marching in the capitals of whatever country they are from getting those governments to reform politically and economically so they don’t have to flee. To the point of the lunatic comparing this to the Revolutionary War, the Colonists didn’t pick up and leave America for another country and expect that country to change to their vision; they stayed in their land and created change through revolution.

 

[30West]

It's too far gone already. As usual the country has waited too late to change anything. Better learn to hablo espanol.
But DO NOT sing me the national anthem in any language but English!

 

[ViewCola]

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[Lear70]

End birthright citizenship!

National language now!

BINGO!

Now add to that NO social security, medicare, welfare, or unemployment benefits for immigrants. Possibly given if you serve in the military.

Visiting? Sure, I'll try to help if you don't speak English.

Wanna live here? Learn the fu*king language.

...now where did I leave my MP5?

I'd give a lot of money for one of those, they look SWEET!

Until then I'll have to make due with my HK and 12 gauge.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boris Yelling
I cannot speak for you, but no way in hell would I buy property in Mexico. Their government is way to corrupt. Most of the beachfront property you see down there that is developed was developed by American investors and then sold to Mexican interest. The Mexican government does not like non Mexicans controlling Mexican territory. You buy and build it and they will find some way to take it away from you for Pesos on the dollar.

What is that your smoking?

What he said...

Boris, please link a VALID NEWS SOURCE which verifies any government take-back of land in Mexico from individual personal ownership unless a crime was involved.

 

[Dizel8]

Along with those mexican illegals that i'll bring back, i'll also bring back the lega limmigrants, the Irish, Italian, Brits etc.

Sadly, I don't think you are comprehending the issue. The Irish, Italians, Brits etc. are here legally, they did things the right way. Just like there are millions of of others who did, including mexicans. That isn't the issue, the issue isn't even immigration, the real issue is illegals who comes across our border by the hundreds every day.

The illegals here are not going home willingly and because of the lack of opportunities south of the border, they will continue to come. Now, you can be a proud mexican all you want, but you should work to fix the problem in your own country, before you start berating ours.

As for your opinion that the Mexican economy will do just fine without the US, I think you may need to investigate that issue further!

 

[Dizel8]

"In Mexico, federal officials tried to distance themselves from the events. But at least a half-dozen state governors endorsed the boycott of U.S. companies.

Masked Zapatista rebel leader Subcomandante Marcos told a rally of about 2,000 supporters outside the U.S. Embassy that immigrants in the United States are "fighting in the belly of the beast."

 

[acaTerry]

Shying away from the truth, the sign of another closed minded consertative.

You must be out of your stinking mind! It's the fluffy hearted liberals who want to give our country and our heritage to everyone who is too LAZY to absorb. Do the Asians demand we speak Japanese, Chinese or tagalog? Do you have to press "1" for English or "2" for Italian? Do you get the point now, professor? Oh and BTW...learn to spell "conservative"...it would add a LITTLE intelligence to your post.
Oh and BTW, why do ILLEGALS get in-state tuition in Arizona? One word....LIBERALS!

 

[Vaquero]

Sadly, I don't think you are comprehending the issue. The Irish, Italians, Brits etc. are here legally, they did things the right way. Just like there are millions of of others who did, including mexicans. That isn't the issue, the issue isn't even immigration, the real issue is illegals who comes across our border by the hundreds every day.

The illegals here are not going home willingly and because of the lack of opportunities south of the border, they will continue to come. Now, you can be a proud mexican all you want, but you should work to fix the problem in your own country, before you start berating ours.

As for your opinion that the Mexican economy will do just fine without the US, I think you may need to investigate that issue further!

I think were getting way ahead, and really speculating on something we all now is not going to happen, there is to much at stake, including politics. The real issue that brought all of this into the spotlights is a series of factors that do not involve something that has been going on since forever, that being illegal immigration. There are issues overseas that you have to settle fast, and diverting attention to these illegals is a perfect way to justify something that is not just, to millions around the world.
Instead of focusing your attention to these illegals, that build your freeways, hotels, houses and pick those tomatoes, turn and look at your W-2's and see what your really paying taxes for. An unjust invasion of the middle east comes to mind. Trillions spent and still counting, you will be paying that forever, your kids also.
So, while I so agree that we have got alot of issue to settle down south, like reforming various institutions within our government, i do believe we are making some steps forward. Unfortunantely, for us we are neighbors to the most powerful country in the world and that could be one of our major obstacles.

 

[AC560]

Unfortunantely, for us we are neighbors to the most powerful country in the world and that could be one of our major obstacles.

The US gave Mexico NAFTA, the fact that nobody in your backward country can run a business isn't the fault of the US; it is the fault of Mexicans.

The worst things about being American is I can't blame somebody else for my problems. If only I were Canadian then I could say the reason my life sucks is because of the US, then I could sleep at nights knowing that all my failings were the result of things out of my control.

 

[Hvy]

We should seal the borders and only allow hot women under the age of 30 from the Czech Republic in to the United States. That would be my platform if running for office.

I'll second that!

 

[Jim Smyth]

Personally I am getting sick of people not being able to understand English in this country. All the signs and instructions being printed in Spanish is getting real old! Enough is enough! This is America. You want to live and work here do things legally and learn to read, write and speak the English language!

Make it a $100,000 dollar fine for every employer that gets caught with an Illegal worker. The rest would take care of itself!

 

[Four Strings]

My 2 cents.

Anyone that did not show up for work to attend a "rally" should be fired. How many of these illigals do you think lost a job for not showing up to work because they were busy protesting? I bet not many. Why? Because the companies that employ them love making money hand over fist off of the backs of cheap labor. Sound familiar to anyone in airline world? When CEO's stop making 89 times that of the average worker there might be enough money left over for every person in america to work for a fair wage (immigrants included) . I think we all should have stayed home that day.

FS

 

[kc135ang]

I hope the American Indians don't get a wiff of this since the whole country illegally immigranted on to their lands!

 

[Phaedrus]

since the whole country illegally immigranted on to their lands!

You're mistaken on this one. We didn't immigrant (sic) on to their lands! We took it away from them. Big difference. Mean? Imperialistic? Selfish? Take a look at history. It's no tea party. Meanwhile I'm sure there were land grabs in our peaceful new world before we ever got here. It's the sad way that we are.