There is no pilot shortage! Sorry. By the way Santa Claus isn't real either.

[atpcliff]

Anyway, there is no pilot shortage. There is only a shortage of pilots willing to fly for regional compensation. That's the point ALPA has been trying to make.

ALPA is just plain wrong. They have an agenda to increase pay, but they are going about it the wrong way. If they would face facts and get behind the reality of the shortage, they could say "there is a HUGE shortage. We need more pay to alleviate the shortage."

They are stuck in the paradigm of the pilot/airline past, when we paid for our own training, and paid for our own experience, and the airlines waited to pluck us when we were ripened by our own sweat and toil and money.

Soon, the Big 3 will have to find seeds or saplings, and then spend the money to develop them into ripe fruit. The paradigm has shifted, and there is no going back.

 

[MAJICJOHNSON]

True. But, don't you think it would be nice to let future Airline Pilot hopefuls know the truth.

 

[MAJICJOHNSON]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=share&v=rHKanuyeawc#

 

[Ops check good]

True. But, don't you think it would be nice to let future Airline Pilot hopefuls know the truth.

Nope.

 

[Erlanger]

disregard

 

[wms]

ALPA assumes every licensed pilot wants to be an airline pilot in the US. That is not the case. I know plenty corporate and GA pilots with advance certificates that don't want to be airline pilots. Wether it's a pilots shortage or a pay shortage, ALPA propagated the problem for the last 15 years by ignoring the regional pilots. Now they're trying back-pedal and say they are on the regional pilot's side when they actually aren't. Probably because there is a flood of regional pilots to the majors and pilots have long memories, not to mention major pilots aren't that happy with ALPA either.

The only reason they're taking this position now is because they know the writing is on the wall at the regionals due to attrition. They can look like they are now an advocate without having to take action, because any action is futile for an industry that will all but cease to exist.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

ALPA assumes every licensed pilot wants to be an airline pilot in the US. That is not the case. I know plenty corporate and GA pilots with advance certificates that don't want to be airline pilots. Wether it's a pilots shortage or a pay shortage, ALPA propagated the problem for the last 15 years by ignoring the regional pilots. Now they're trying back-pedal and say they are on the regional pilot's side when they actually aren't. Probably because there is a flood of regional pilots to the majors and pilots have long memories, not to mention major pilots aren't that happy with ALPA either.

The only reason they're taking this position now is because they know the writing is on the wall at the regionals due to attrition. They can look like they are now an advocate without having to take action, because any action is futile for an industry that will all but cease to exist.

Ignored the regional pilots?? Does that include the period when the regionals had explosive growth while all the majors were furloughing? A job is a job and nobody was complaining then about the pay or opportunities. In fact, those scum top guys at Comair even tried to use it as leverage to get bigger planes from mainline.

The reason it's a focus point now is that the majors are scooping up pilots left and right for the increased pay and benefits. Nobody should have EVER been under the impression a regional job is a career.

 

[BrickTop]

ALPA is just plain wrong. They have an agenda to increase pay, but they are going about it the wrong way. If they would face facts and get behind the reality of the shortage, they could say "there is a HUGE shortage. We need more pay to alleviate the shortage."

They are stuck in the paradigm of the pilot/airline past, when we paid for our own training, and paid for our own experience, and the airlines waited to pluck us when we were ripened by our own sweat and toil and money.

Soon, the Big 3 will have to find seeds or saplings, and then spend the money to develop them into ripe fruit. The paradigm has shifted, and there is no going back.

There are those who are so desperate in their careers, that materialization of an "actual" shortage is their only hope for any significant career development.

There is no shortage, only a mathematical fallacy based on unpredictable multiples and biased constants, fabricated by self-interested groups (pilots included) to facilitate false industry development, wage races, and political influence.

In short terms, if you believe in a shortage, you're' a go##damn moron.

 

[FDJ2]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=share&v=rHKanuyeawc#

Great video!
It's a pilot PAY shortage. Just follow the numbers.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=share&v=rHKanuyeawc&app=desktop

 

[jmreii]

The pay shortage is here to stay so enjoy the journey.