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The sign "TRIP" should be CHANGED now

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Daresuzy

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The MEDIA has done it to us again guys, I think they should change the "trip" reference and go with something new. What do you think guys??

I don't want a hijacker blowing a hole in the side of my head just because I transmitted a "trip" to ATC.

We NEED a new secret word!! THIS IS BAD, REALLY BAD!
The terrorist read this board too, you know. It would be naive to think otherwise

-Suzy
Future airline capt'


Pilot miscommunication trips interception in N.C.
CHARLES HURT
Knight Ridder Newspapers

Linthicum, Md -- In what turned out to be a high-profile false alarm, fighter jets screamed into North Carolina on Tuesday to intercept a US Airways flight authorities believed had been hijacked after taking off from Charlotte, officials said.

Flight 1814 and its 45 passengers and five crew members left Charlotte at 8:07 a.m. and landed at Baltimore-Washington International Airport at 9:31 a.m. Passengers and crew members disembarked about 11 a.m. after the authorities determined that no threat existed.

The troubles began, according to federal officials, when the pilot of the Airbus 319 switched radio frequencies to leave the Southern air control space and enter the Eastern air control space. He told flight controllers he was "taking a trip to flight level 2-3-0," meaning an altitude of 23,000 feet.

The word "trip" was a poor choice because it is a code word for hijacking.

"It really was as simple as that," said one official with the Federal Aviation Administration. Aviation. The code word is not a closely held secret, the official said.

The plane continued on its normal route with the pilot likely unaware of what he had set off.

Within minutes, two armed F-16s -- dispatched from Andrews Air Force Base near Washington D.C. -- swooped in beside the jetliner, close enough for some passengers and the crew to see them.

Two more fighter jets were sent to patrol the skies over Washington.

Upon touchdown, the plane was met by officials from several Maryland and federal agencies, who escorted it to an unused part of the airfield.

For most passengers, that was their first indication something was wrong.

Arthur Ramsey of Greenville, S.C., who was flying to Baltimore on a business trip, said about 30 minutes after the plane landed, the pilot told passengers there had been a miscommunication and the crew was trying to take care of it.

"The pilot was really nervous. He didn't have a clue -- you could hear it in his voice," Ramsey said.

Two FBI agents boarded the plane and went directly to the cockpit, Ramsey said. Other agents and police officers appeared to be searching the baggage compartment.

"At first we were all kind of joking about it," Ramsey said. "But the more cop cars that showed up, we knew it was serious. A lot goes through your head in a situation like this because they weren't giving us a lot of information."

It's hardly the first time fighter jets have been dispatched since Sept. 11.

Air Force Maj. Ed Thomas, with the North American Aerospace Defense Command, said jets have been dispatched to escort passenger planes about 500 times since Sept. 11 because of everything from a broken radio to a miscommunication.

Such actions were extremely rare before Sept. 11.

"It's the force of last resort," Thomas said. "But we're leaving nothing to chance anymore."

The fighter jets are prepared to shoot a hijacked plane down if ordered to do so by the president or the secretary of defense.

LaTease McAllister, visiting family in Baltimore from Los Angeles, said the event "was no big deal, really."

"The only thing is, I guess I don't have to contact anyone to tell them I'm here," she said, lugging her bags through the crowd of news reporters and television cameras.
 
The MEDIA has done it to us again guys, I think they should change the "trip" reference and go with something new. What do you think guys??

Yesterday you didn't even know about this phrase, and today they have done it to "us" again.

Just kidding with you..

Seriously though, I don't think this is a subject that we should discuss on this or any board. Keep it in the training center.
 
I'm glad you cleared up any possibility of missing this story for those hijackers who might visit this board.

What was the point of mentioning the word or reprinting the story without deleting the word?

Speechless.
 
From my former career, I'm still sort of a news junkie, and this reprint of the story was the first public explanation of this word that I had seen all day.

My point is this: it didn't need a thread to give it wider dissemination. You can let a cat out of a bag, but there's no need to put it on a leash and parade it down the street, even though others might have already done so.
 
The code word is not a closely held secret, the official said.

Well if it isn't a closely held secret, it ain't much of a "code word" is it?
 
That is all long gone with our procedures. I won't say anything more but if a hijacker is reading this just try your stuff on my airplane....."It will make my day." Do we have some surprises for you.
 
To divulge any of the new common strategy is a felony. So that makes it a little hard to respond to this string, but I wouldn't be too worried about the publication of a phrase that is basically dated.

regards,
8N
 
HOLY !@#$%^&*(-

Some people are so F#U$C%K^I%N*G! stupid.

No....no.....now wait a minute there........I think I have the bestest idear of all time there dare I say suzy. Why don't you just publicize your highly intellictual ideas of a replacement Suz?!

I've got a great idea....let's call it "SUSPENDED"... which is what the FAA should stamp on your certificate. Or maybe "REVOKED"...I think that would be better. You are the biggest jacka$s...............

My only hope is that the moderator has a faster delete finger than you do the one that goes apparently up your @A%S$S and out your frickin ear.
 
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Spin doctor you dork....

Give me a break guys, like talking about this on this board is really letting anything out. Sheesh, lighten up.
 
checkessential said;

Only a woman...

Do you have a point or are you just being a misogynist and chauvinist idiot?

Did you think of that all by yourself? Wow! Impressive!
 
mohammed ata has been burning in hell for almost a year now. Ooops, seems the queeran was fiction eh? 1,000,000 years from now the clock will still be stopped for mohammed ata and he will still be burning. Be careful what you read.

P.S. Why would spell checkers be programmed to try and capitalize mohammed? Isn't it a federal offense to capatilize mohammed? Bill you been reading the queeran?

RT
 
Right now ol' atta would give anything to be face to face with JESUS. John 14:6, John 1

Wasn't his prize supposed to be 1 million virgins? What they didn't tell him, was those virgins were big fat hairy men residing down under.
 
As a couple of others have stated here. Most operators have long since removed that "code word" you all are referring to. My company being one of them. I will not elaborate anymore than that. And if I'm not mistaken(correct me if I'm wrong) but I think it used to be printed in the AIM.
 
I just had recurrent and the 4 hr. NEW common strag. that came with it. (what a joke BTW) The instructor told us the "word" is no longer used. I'ts all crap anyway, eople who don't know the front from the back of the A/C making the rules.
 

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