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Metrojet

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http://www.thestreet.com/story/1200...seniority-dispute.html?puc=yahoo&cm_ven=YAHOO

Well we will see what Judge Silver says in Sept.

If you look up any definition of "MOU" , it clearly states it is not a collective bargaining agreement, but a more non legal agreement whereby two or more parties agree to certain terms - like a "gentlemans agreement".

And with 95% of PHX pilots voting for the MOU - clearly they understood this was not a CBA, but just the framework for a agreement in the future.

Metrojet
 
http://www.thestreet.com/story/1200...seniority-dispute.html?puc=yahoo&cm_ven=YAHOO

Well we will see what Judge Silver says in Sept.

If you look up any definition of "MOU" , it clearly states it is not a collective bargaining agreement, but a more non legal agreement whereby two or more parties agree to certain terms - like a "gentlemans agreement".

And with 95% of PHX pilots voting for the MOU - clearly they understood this was not a CBA, but just the framework for a agreement in the future.

Metrojet


Didn't she agree that the Westies were finally "Ripe" when it comes to being $crewed financially thanks to your group's lack of integrity? I think she did....... Don't sign up for BINDING arbitration unless you agree to accept the award.


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
Didn't she agree that the Westies were finally "Ripe" when it comes to being $crewed financially thanks to your group's lack of integrity? I think she did....... Don't sign up for BINDING arbitration unless you agree to accept the award.


Bye Bye---General Lee


Binding arbitration was a requirement of Alpa merger policy at the time. Failing negotiations, failing mediation, it was arbitration. It was coming no matter what.
 
Please please please make it end . If I never hear about this goat fu*k again it will be too soon. A shining example of how greedy and childish people can be. Bury this turd and lets move on.
 
Didn't she agree that the Westies were finally "Ripe" when it comes to being $crewed financially thanks to your group's lack of integrity? I think she did....... Don't sign up for BINDING arbitration unless you agree to accept the award.


Bye Bye---General Lee

General -

All the past litigations took the same assumption from the plaintiffs that they said the case was ripe. They have lost every single one.

In this particular case - the Judge says it is ripe because she assumes that the MOU that was passed carries the same legal weight as a collective bargaining
Agreement. If that were the case - then why on the POR date, only a handful of issues have been addressed, and not all sections of our CBA?

I know - I am making way too much sense for you to accept. - you will just throw out your same old response about binding arbitration - since you are the professor of seniority integration!

Metrojet
 
General -

All the past litigations took the same assumption from the plaintiffs that they said the case was ripe. They have lost every single one.

In this particular case - the Judge says it is ripe because she assumes that the MOU that was passed carries the same legal weight as a collective bargaining
Agreement. If that were the case - then why on the POR date, only a handful of issues have been addressed, and not all sections of our CBA?

I know - I am making way too much sense for you to accept. - you will just throw out your same old response about binding arbitration - since you are the professor of seniority integration!

Metrojet
Read the Title of the actual document. It's a CBA. Sorry you scabs can't read.
 
Binding arbitration was a requirement of Alpa merger policy at the time. Failing negotiations, failing mediation, it was arbitration. It was coming no matter what.

Sorry, at the time of signatures by all 3 parties (including the company), everyone knew what was expected of them, to abide by the award. It really is just that simple. Don't sign up for it unless you are willing to abide by the award. The Easties failed at integrity.


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
General -

All the past litigations took the same assumption from the plaintiffs that they said the case was ripe. They have lost every single one.

In this particular case - the Judge says it is ripe because she assumes that the MOU that was passed carries the same legal weight as a collective bargaining
Agreement. If that were the case - then why on the POR date, only a handful of issues have been addressed, and not all sections of our CBA?

I know - I am making way too much sense for you to accept. - you will just throw out your same old response about binding arbitration - since you are the professor of seniority integration!

Metrojet

Yeah, ever heard of a CBA? Did your guy cross his fingers when he was signing on the bottom line? I bet you do that, too. And the MOU landslide win actually increased the "ripeness" for the Westies, and sped up the timeline. That's why it won by a landslide.




Bye Bye---General Lee
 
http://www.thestreet.com/story/1200...seniority-dispute.html?puc=yahoo&cm_ven=YAHOO

Well we will see what Judge Silver says in Sept.

If you look up any definition of "MOU" , it clearly states it is not a collective bargaining agreement, but a more non legal agreement whereby two or more parties agree to certain terms - like a "gentlemans agreement".

And with 95% of PHX pilots voting for the MOU - clearly they understood this was not a CBA, but just the framework for a agreement in the future.

Metrojet

Why would anyone even waste time reading the garbage Ted Reed writes? His blatant bias toward his former colleagues at the OLD USAir are visible even to the completely uninformed. Move on...nothing to see hear.

PS. I look forward to the day the West pilots will be able to stop funding Leonidas because it means the USAPA experiment is ancient history and we can stop focusing on division and start working on unity within the group.
 
The really good news......the END of usair is upon us. I just hope there isn't enough of their diseased DNA left to contaminate AA and ruin the careers of yet another group of pilots.
 
Read the Title of the actual document. It's a CBA. Sorry you scabs can't read.

Hello Becket

Sorry you can't read. - page 1 title " Memorandum of Understanding" regarding

"Contingent ................Agreement". Look up the definition of "contingent " - likely but not certain to happen: possible : liable to occur but not with certainty.

Now I know Judge Silver can read , but she just puts her interpretation out there.

Now I see other terms - MTA, JCBA, CLA and POR. See last page of Agreement which defines timeline for JCBA.

Metrojet
 
Hello Becket

Sorry you can't read. - page 1 title " Memorandum of Understanding" regarding

"Contingent ................Agreement". Look up the definition of "contingent " - likely but not certain to happen: possible : liable to occur but not with certainty.

Now I know Judge Silver can read , but she just puts her interpretation out there.

Now I see other terms - MTA, JCBA, CLA and POR. See last page of Agreement which defines timeline for JCBA.

Metrojet
Your days are numbered. Party's over.
 
Hello Becket

Sorry you can't read. - page 1 title " Memorandum of Understanding" regarding

"Contingent ................Agreement". Look up the definition of "contingent " - likely but not certain to happen: possible : liable to occur but not with certainty.

Now I know Judge Silver can read , but she just puts her interpretation out there.

Now I see other terms - MTA, JCBA, CLA and POR. See last page of Agreement which defines timeline for JCBA.

Metrojet

Yeah, you tricked everyone, including all the West lawyers..... Guess what? Ocity is right, your party will soon be over.



Bye Bye---General Lee
 
General -

All the past litigations took the same assumption from the plaintiffs that they said the case was ripe. They have lost every single one.

In this particular case - the Judge says it is ripe because she assumes that the MOU that was passed carries the same legal weight as a collective bargaining
Agreement. If that were the case - then why on the POR date, only a handful of issues have been addressed, and not all sections of our CBA?

I know - I am making way too much sense for you to accept. - you will just throw out your same old response about binding arbitration - since you are the professor of seniority integration!

Metrojet




Get ready APA is getting ready to use sand for you.

karma is a b----h
 
Ted Reed and James "CAL 83" Ray are buddies...so just follow the dog and pony show...9/24 can not come soon enough for me.
 
Pilots will still be bitching long after Poser Lee is farting dust in a nursing home. :D

Wow, you are testy, most likely because you know I am right, and you know you and your group are no integrity dirtbags. It will be refreshing to see you and your group lose, and then watch your next trainwreck. What is great is that in the end, the Westies will win out, primarily because as a group they are younger than your old Eastie group and 3/4 of the APA. In a decade, the majority of the top 1/3 will be Westies, and that is sweet justice. You lose.



Bye Bye---General Lee
 
wow, you are testy, most likely because you know i am right, and you know you and your group are no integrity dirtbags. It will be refreshing to see you and your group lose, and then watch your next trainwreck. What is great is that in the end, the westies will win out, primarily because as a group they are younger than your old eastie group and 3/4 of the apa. In a decade, the majority of the top 1/3 will be westies, and that is sweet justice. You lose.



Bye bye---general lee

17,883 :laugh:
 

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