The Costa Citationair

[Praetorian]

Been busy playing golf and other useful activities...so I may have missed something, but why is there a continuing discussion of unions at CitationAir?

I doubt they would be conducting "union busting" activities when they are trying to get out of the business and have more important things to do. Very doubtful that Textron would allow this type of activity for an immaterial part of their business and the fact they have unions all over the place.

Would your friend just be pulling your chain?

Apparently the union busting is coming from Sally. He has reportedly sent out a letter where he claims the 'right to work' folks as his sponsor. Not sure if Sally knows just who he gotten himself mixed up with. I hope the CA pilots do.

 

[Praetorian]

Been drinking? What a childish rant!

No. But you clearly were.

 

[The Dude Abides]

Obama likes the Teamsters they help him with elections, their for I don't like the Teamsters. Too Liberal for my taste.

"Their for"?! Been drinking? What childish grammar.

 

[gret]

Apparently the union busting is coming from Sally. He has reportedly sent out a letter where he claims the 'right to work' folks as his sponsor. Not sure if Sally knows just who he gotten himself mixed up with. I hope the CA pilots do.

Can you obtain the letter and post it so we have the facts?

 

[GooseHZ]

I would want a Union between my pilot group and a new management team. A union would also be a helpful in negotiations of two senority list. Or you could just hope for the best.

 

[Praetorian]

Can you obtain the letter and post it so we have the facts?

Do you think, even for a minute, I'd give this traitor to all pilots a wider audience by doing that?

 

[gret]

Do you think, even for a minute, I'd give this traitor to all pilots a wider audience by doing that?

Why not?...documentation supporting comments usually never hurt anyone...and is good for the soul. Most of us are big boys, not biased, and can formulate reasonable opinions if the facts are presented.

Not sure how it helps the "traitor" if we have people posting and telling us what it says.

Inquiring minds, seeking clarity, want to know...that's all.

 

[The Dude Abides]

Why not?...documentation supporting comments usually never hurt anyone...and is good for the soul. Most of us are big boys, not biased, and can formulate reasonable opinions if the facts are presented.

Not sure how it helps the "traitor" if we have people posting and telling us what it says.

Inquiring minds, seeking clarity, want to know...that's all.

He doesn't need to post the bull******************** letter. It's true. Don't buy it if you don't want to ... irrelevant, really. But SBOB did in fact claim that RTW is involved and counseling him. A good thing, too, because nothing like a-holes with literally no vested interest sticking their fat ********************ing noses where they don't belong.

 

[The Dude Abides]

Would your friend just be pulling your chain?

With the exception of the word "friend" an excellent question. SBOB is known to bloviate to levels Bill O'Reilly would be proud. Much ado about nothing? He says he has the cards, but I highly doubt it.

 

[Praetorian]

Why not?...documentation supporting comments usually never hurt anyone...and is good for the soul. Most of us are big boys, not biased, and can formulate reasonable opinions if the facts are presented.

Not sure how it helps the "traitor" if we have people posting and telling us what it says.

Inquiring minds, seeking clarity, want to know...that's all.

That was a nice try. I'll give you that much.

 

[gret]

Nice try? Not sure what you are inferring.

Don't know why it is hard to provide back up so we all can hop on the bandwagon knowing the truth.

 

[OHGOON]

BS! gret,

The Dude told you it's all true. You don't need to see the letter. What purpose would it serve? We know you don't miss any chance to stir the anti union pot, but do try not to insult our intelligence that much.

The mistake you make, is that you think everyone is as incredulous and naive as you appear to be.

 

[OHGOON]

"Their for"?! Been drinking? What childish grammar.

You beat me to it... I bet he probably doesn't even know what you are getting at.


Bringing up Obama in this thread...can it get any lamer? Another mental child trying desperately to appear able to participate in an adult conversation. :erm:

Fractrash living up to his moniker again in unexpected ways...LMFAO

 

[gret]

BS! gret,

The Dude told you it's all true. You don't need to see the letter. What purpose would it serve? We know you don't miss any chance to stir the anti union pot, but do try not to insult our intelligence that much.

The mistake you make, is that you think everyone is as incredulous and naive as you appear to be.

One would hope that none of us on this reputable platform would issue statements that they won't, or can't, substantiate. If the statements are true, nobody should be reluctant to provide additional support that can stand the light of day.

If a poster is unable to support a statement, it would be helpful if they preface their remarks with "In my opinion" or "I'm pulling this out of my butt" so we can separate facts from opinions.

Nobody is trying to "stir the anti union pot". Questioning pro union posts' accuracy doesn't make you anti union.

Not to be a Brian Wilson, but wouldn't it be nice to hear the truth in a fashion that is useful and shows respect for the audience, rather than profanity laced tirades that only provide the writer short term satisfaction for his twisted brain's need to make everyone share in their perceived misery.

 

[Praetorian]

One would hope that none of us on this reputable platform would issue statements that they won't, or can't, substantiate. If the statements are true, nobody should be reluctant to provide additional support that can stand the light of day.

If a poster is unable to support a statement, it would be helpful if they preface their remarks with "In my opinion" or "I'm pulling this out of my butt" so we can separate facts from opinions.

Nobody is trying to "stir the anti union pot". Questioning pro union posts' accuracy doesn't make you anti union.

Not to be a Brian Wilson, but wouldn't it be nice to hear the truth in a fashion that is useful and shows respect for the audience, rather than profanity laced tirades that only provide the writer short term satisfaction for his twisted brain's need to make everyone share in their perceived misery.

Are you calling me a liar?

 

[gret]

Seeking facts...no way for me to make such a statement.

If you have the back up, then shouldn't be a problem. Redact whatever you consider personal information. It's not difficult and will support your arguments about mgmt being troublesome.

If you don't possess the information, say so and we can draw our own conclusions and move on to more interesting topics.

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[Praetorian]

Seeking facts...no way for me to make such a statement.

If you have the back up, then shouldn't be a problem. Redact whatever you consider personal information. It's not difficult and will support your arguments about mgmt being troublesome.

If you don't possess the information, say so and we can draw our own conclusions and move on to more interesting topics.

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You act at though I owe you some kind of explanation. I could give a $hit if you "move on to more interesting topics", or not.

As others here have confirmed, Sally is being advised by RTW. He has stated as much in the letter he distributed to my friend and the other pilots at CA. You will have to take my word for it - or not.

I think for most people it's not much of a leap to believe that since RTW is in the business of busting unions they would be involved in something like this. If that's hard for you, again, I really don't care.

 

[gret]

Don't need an explanation, I'm getting better at understanding the English language. Just looking for support to your commentary of what occurred.

Was really pulling for you on this one...Reading the embellishments and innuendos that are throw about is entertaining (and sometimes a sad reflection about society), but it would be nice to see facts once in awhile.

 

[Praetorian]

Tell you what I'll do, since my word is not good enough for you. Prove to us that you are actually a pilot and I'll post a portion of the document in question up on here for you.

 

[gret]

C'mon...you know better than that...as you've read before-

I'm a cross dressing magician and juggler from Pattaya and really thank my Buddha for finding such a delightful group of people as has been demonstrated time again here on FlightInfo. It has helped with my English and grammar all get out and the patience exhibited by everyone is appreciated. In a few more years, I will learn and be able to "impose my will on mgmt" and shout "no concessions" or "what about my QOL" (what does this mean?), "company doesn't need profits, give us raises...we're professionals!", "old guys...retire and make room for me!" and other sayings that are so popular here, but so foreign to me.​