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[jonjuan]

Then your confused why alpa doesn't have the participation that Swapa has.

Swapa wouldn't have the leverage it has without Herb's influence, vision, or capitalism. You must have arrived at WN in the past 10 years. As such, you won the mini-lottery. Be just a little humble.....

 

[pilotyip]

Swapa wouldn't have the leverage it has without Herb's influence, vision, or capitalism. You must have arrived at WN in the past 10 years. As such, you won the mini-lottery. Be just a little humble.....

Nicely said, I remember the old days in the 90's guys at SWA were just happy to have job at SWA. Now it seems that might not be enought

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Here is an example of "reverse leadership"

Alaska Pilots Raise Funds, Distribute Checks to FurlougheesLast week, Alaska Airlines’ furloughed pilots received a holiday gift from their fellow pilots in the form of a check. In a little more than a month, Alaska Airlines’ pilots—joined by some of Alaska Airlines’ crew schedulers and planners and management—contributed $24,000 to the Furloughed Pilots Christmas Fund, the brainchild of Alaska First Officers Will McQuillen and Nate Chilman, who both were furloughed from a different carrier prior to coming to work at Alaska. When it began collecting funds in November, the Fund set a goal to raise enough to send every furloughed pilot $100. Instead, an overwhelming outpouring of support contributed enough to send more than twice that, or just over $230, to 103 of the 106 furloughed pilots. Three furloughed pilots who have found new jobs contacted the MEC and asked not to receive any of the money, requesting instead that their share be distributed among the other pilots on furlough.
“Our hope is that this gift will help make the holidays a little brighter for our fellow pilots and their families and will remind them that they remain in our hearts and minds as we enter the new year,” said Alaska furlough coordinator F/O Jeff Browand.

The reason why good things happen, is because an individual took the intiative. Not because they waited for someone to serve them......

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Leadership is nothing but influence. Anyone in a democracy has the ability to engage and influence others. Expecting or counting on others to influence for you (especially when you hasn't communicated is futile).

The ability to successfully influence with logic, reason and guidance is difficult. Just ensure that the difficulty is not ones own......

 

[waveflyer]

Apparently- you'd like to continue this conversation.

Tell you what- get flygirlqt to have dinner w/ me naked and we'll keep talking. Until then-alpa's your battle- and it's failings your problem.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Apparently- you'd like to continue this conversation.

It was something I thought of after my last post and a point I wanted to make....

Tell you what- get flygirlqt to have dinner w/ me naked and we'll keep talking.

That would be in accord with my post of effective influence... then again..I ain't pimpin'.

Until then-alpa's your battle- and it's failings your problem.

Well.... yeah... if we reject responsibility of our own problems whom do we blame for our circumstance?

 

[waveflyer]

Not dissing your point, just not my union. Do think that you're not recognizing the reality that most pilots are busy living their lives and have no desire to wrap themselves in union politics. If you do- then it is your challenge to figure out how to get people involved considering that reality.

I know pimpin's not easy, but c'mon man - do a little work for a brother..
;-)

 

[PCL_128]

You may say that ALPA's not your union, but the truth is, whether you're a member or not, ALPA is every pilot's advocate. ALPA is the only union that gets invited to speak for airline pilots at most government hearings, events, etc... CAPA occasionally gets a say, but that's pretty rare, and it only happens when they send either Sully or Skiles. Nobody would ever pay attention to Onorato. When it gets right down to it, ALPA is the voice of air line pilots, whether it's on Capital Hill, at ICAO, in the press, or just about anywhere else. Remember, SWAPA pushed for years for the Age 65 nonsense, but it got nowhere until ALPA made the move.

So, it may not be your union, but it is your voice outside of SWA. You have a vested interest in ALPA whether you pay dues or not.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Not dissing your point, just not my union. Do think that you're not recognizing the reality that most pilots are busy living their lives and have no desire to wrap themselves in union politics. If you do- then it is your challenge to figure out how to get people involved considering that reality.

Define busy living their lives? Does that mean taking advantage of a union contract that provides for days off and income to do what ones wishes? The classic is the union pilot who chides the the profession as he starts a second career from the days off and income the union contract provides. (not knocking anyone who does....)

It is no different than American citizens who enjoy the benefits of freedom and liberty without the responsibility of protecting and promoting it.

If the car isn't maintained sooner or later it will simply break down.

I know pimpin's not easy, but c'mon man - do a little work for a brother..
;-)

You've got a better audience than I. I would only diminish your chances....

 

[Lear70]

Tell you what- get flygirlqt to have dinner w/ me naked and we'll keep talking. Until then-alpa's your battle- and it's failings your problem.

I know pimpin's not easy, but c'mon man - do a little work for a brother..
;-)

I guess leg-humping is universal on ALL internet forums that are predominantly male with a few females who, often times, simply lurk so as to avoid said leg-humping...


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