Thanks United! Southwest increases Love Departures

[Chest Rockwell]

Always paying our bills.....love it!

Thats a great Slogan Spirit warriors....sounds like somebody is running scared dragging out old digs! Garys gonna drag you through the same courts we did in spite of your contract demands....

NAW...that wont happen....like I said in 2000 when Delta was best compensated and SWA was still not paying pilots for getting into holding patterns

...and ended up furloughing how many?

Take a look at two pilots, one hired at DL, the other at SWA, in say 1992. Who made more in 2000, since 2000, etc?

No slogan here, just fact and common sense.

 

[canyonblue]

NAW...that wont happen....like I said in 2000 when Delta was best compensated and SWA was still not paying pilots for getting into holding patterns

Where do you get your information, The Onion? Congatulations on winning the "Stupid post of the day" award. You can collect your prize, a 7 day all expences paid trip to Peachtree City. :beer:

 

[canyonblue]

No slogan here, just fact and common sense.

That's frowned upon at Delta.

 

[Flopgut]

Free ride?

Always paying your bills, employing hundreds if not thousands of locals in each community, giving back to that community in other ways (RM houses, other charities, volunteer work), not to mention greatly stimulating and expanding air travel among ALL airlines in those communities (documented by the government)... that's your idea of a free ride?!

Good God Flop, you're so overcome with irrational hatred, that you say the stupidest things. How does your head not explode?

Bubba

I think you're the one with your undies in a bind. I'm a lucid and harmonious poster. I always am clear that I wouldn't wish the worst on SWA (or anyone) and I don't think furloughs are anything to be celebrated. You don't like hearing certain things so you lash out. Get over it.

You know a lot of folks in Houston don't even know it was a SWA launch city? You're just here to exploit a larger airport that taxpayers made a large investment in. $72m is the price tag for the parking garage you want built for your new terminal. That's initially coming out of Houston Airport System general funds. Thanks. A parking garage has to be duplicated so you can have your own private FIS. Keep these numbers in mind: 1.6 billion to Houston economy, 10,000 jobs, and $130 ticket to Bogota. You're going to have to hit those numbers, and somehow live down a cozy, enabling relationship with a very marginal mayor, in order to call this a success.

 

[FlyinGuy]

I sure am glad that Jeff Smisek is such a trustworthy chap and that he would never try to influence politicians for the betterment of his company.

 

[redflyer65]

The only serious item that Flop can come up with at Hobby is a damn parking garage. Think about that for a minute!

Hey Flop, any idea how much money the Houston Airport Authority will clear on that deal in the end? How many millions? at what $10-15/day per vehicle? I wish I could get some of that parking garage income.

Your parking garage outrage is ridiculous and makes you look like a fool.

 

[Flopgut]

Red: You're missing the point. Taxpayers are having to duplicate the expense. IAH was built to handle all the houston international traffic. It's ridiculous and it's never going to trickle down or in anyway make it back to the average taxpayer. It's bad policy. It's not part of a functional relationship. Things like this are not done in other states where FIS are duplicated. In most of those instances the facilities at the secondary airport are common use. You've managed to build the opposite!! You're set to lock everybody out (again!) into an unworkable situation (using one gate).

 

[Cometman]

Red: You're missing the point. Taxpayers are having to duplicate the expense. IAH was built to handle all the houston international traffic. It's ridiculous and it's never going to trickle down or in anyway make it back to the average taxpayer. It's bad policy. It's not part of a functional relationship. Things like this are not done in other states where FIS are duplicated. In most of those instances the facilities at the secondary airport are common use. You've managed to build the opposite!! You're set to lock everybody out (again!) into an unworkable situation (using one gate).

Get a life. I cannot believe you are an airline pilot. Don't you have anything better to do than to keep posting your stupid remarks?

 

[SWA Bubba]

Red: You're missing the point. Taxpayers are having to duplicate the expense. IAH was built to handle all the houston international traffic. It's ridiculous and it's never going to trickle down or in anyway make it back to the average taxpayer. It's bad policy. It's not part of a functional relationship. Things like this are not done in other states where FIS are duplicated. In most of those instances the facilities at the secondary airport are common use. You've managed to build the opposite!!

Actually, Flop, it's YOU that's missing the point, the bigger picture, and the difference between your anti-SWA bias and what the city of Houston actually wanted. As usual.

The city of Houston is building the parking garage as a money-making venture--it will be paid for in a few years, and then a pure cash cow for the city after that. Cities build a lot more crap than that, for a lot less in return. Why don't you get that? It's a win for the city; taxpayers are NOT losing anything here; it's cash-positive for the city.

And can you give me one other example, anywhere in the country, where consumers/citizens are harmed by having more choices in competition? I don't think so. Houstonians, especially those on the south side, LOVE having the ability to fly out of a closer, smaller, easier-to-navigate airport. And yet, YOU want to take that away from them, so that they have to drive further, and go through more hassle at IAH, and pay more, just so your airline makes the revenue. And then you have the nutsack to pretend it's somehow in their best interest?! That's rich.

You're set to lock everybody out (again!) into an unworkable situation (using one gate).

Ha! Yet another thinly-veiled implication about Love Field. You "forgot" to respond to where I pointed out that you don't know what you're talking about. For like the 50th time. You just ignore the facts, and repeat your ignorance.

HOW did Southwest "lock out" anyone at Love Field? Tell me, Flop. As I said (and you conveniently ignored), there were literally dozens of empty gates at Love, for literally decades, that NO airline wanted to use. Then American Airlines forced a 20 gate limit (essentially the gates that airlines were currently using), and now you're going to bitch about Southwest?

If anyone "locked everybody out" of Love Field, it's American Airlines, not Southwest Airlines.

But you already knew that, didn't you?

Bubba

 

[humveedriver]

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Latest and greatest on Love Field gate and flight competition.

 

[HowardBorden]

You know a lot of folks in Houston don't even know it was a SWA launch city? You're just here to exploit a larger airport that taxpayers made a large investment in. $72m is the price tag for the parking garage you want built for your new terminal. That's initially coming out of Houston Airport System general funds. Thanks. A parking garage has to be duplicated so you can have your own private FIS

You seem to be the only one complaining! Everyone else seems to be happy about getting an upgraded facility.

"We've combined our knowledge of the Houston flying public with our considerable expertise in airport parking," said Casey Wagner, senior vice president and managing principal of the Houston office of Walker Parking Consultants, which designed the new garage and is assisting in construction management.
"That's one reason we'll have a climate-controlled sky bridge connecting the garage to the terminal, so Houston drivers won?t be exposed to the weather when crossing between the two."
This may very well be the most exciting time in the history of Hobby Airport,"says Airport General Manager Perry J. Miller. "We've seen a dramatic transformation take place at Hobby Airport over the past five years with a new lobby, baggage claim area and ticket counters. Now, passengers are going to enjoy a new terminal building and expanded parking capacity."

Keep these numbers in mind: 1.6 billion to Houston economy, 10,000 jobs, and $130 ticket to Bogota. You're going to have to hit those numbers, and somehow live down a cozy, enabling relationship with a very marginal mayor, in order to call this a success.

Do you mean that SWA is bound by numbers produced by a City of Houston based impact study? If so, please explain how Southwest Airlines is legally bound by a study they didn't fund or request? I'm sure they will probably come close to those numbers because I'm sure Houston commissioned a realistic study, but every time you mention The City of Houston's independent report you portray it as a promise SWA made to Houston. Clearly it was an estimated impact study commissioned and funded by Houston not a promise from Southwest.

However, a study commissioned by the Houston Airport System found the new terminal would have a positive economic impact on Houston by creating 10,000 new jobs and pouring more than $1 billion into the local economy.

 

[redflyer65]

Do you mean that SWA is bound by numbers produced by a City of Houston based impact study? If so, please explain how Southwest Airlines is legally bound by a study they didn't fund or request? I'm sure they will probably come close to those numbers because I'm sure Houston commissioned a realistic study, but every time you mention The City of Houston's independent report you portray it as a promise SWA made to Houston. Clearly it was an estimated impact study commissioned and funded by Houston not a promise from Southwest.

However, a study commissioned by the Houston Airport System found the new terminal would have a positive economic impact on Houston by creating 10,000 new jobs and pouring more than $1 billion into the local economy.

Howie, you nailed it.

The Houston City Council numbers were brought up directly to Gary Kelly during his Q&A. I watched it live. He stated exactly what Southwest would bring to the table regarding jobs. That's ALL he could comment on. The one dude that was in the low income area of Houston kept pressing on 'thousands of jobs'. Gary held his ground and told him exactly what SW would bring because that's all he's responsible for.

Flop seems to be in the same bizarro world that guarantees XX thousand jobs. The other jobs will come from construction and services like vendors and taxies. Gary never guaranteed anything other than what growth Southwest would have with the new terminal. Would you expect anything more?

 

[HowardBorden]

Red: You're missing the point. Taxpayers are having to duplicate the expense. IAH was built to handle all the houston international traffic. It's ridiculous and it's never going to trickle down or in anyway make it back to the average taxpayer. It's bad policy.

Again, you're just flat out wrong, as usual. Your assertion that expenses paid toward building any additional international facilities at Hobby will never "trickle down" to the average taxpayer is fallacious.

Southwest draws on data from Campbell-Hill Aviation Group in its application that concludes that Southwest's competition will reduce fares in its four proposed Houston - Mexico markets by an average of $117 round-trip, 25 per cent below current fares and stimulate an additional 273,000 passengers annually across the four markets. The combination of these reduced fares and resulting passenger stimulation will generate $33 million annually in consumer fare savings, claims the report.

http://www.routesonline.com/news/29...unch-low-fare-link-to-belize-in-latin-growth/