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We just need a placard that says flying may cause injury or death...

We need to let Darwinism work it's magic...


Darwinism is all well and good until you reduce a planeload of paying passengers to a 500 foot circular divot of blood, teeth, hair, and eyeballs.

Where we need natural selection to work its magic is in the training, checking, and interviewing arenas. Far too many meatheads have wended their ways into the cockpits of airliners. It is a stain on the profession.
 
Assbucket? Whats that, a chair? Certainly you can insult me better than that considering the depth of your vocabulary and your affinity for the use of ALL CAPS.

I didn't want to impugn the reputation of all "Hats" Good or Bad.

After a substantial reflection down the halls of time and regulatory injustice counter to your assertions as FACT (Sorry, yes, I again have ALL CAPPED YOUR A55); all you can come back with is: hurt feelings and a superficial jab regarding keyboard etiquette
and an arrogant interpolation of vocabulary?

You continue to hang-on with the other 20% of the population that think Obama is the greatest thing since boobies! I am sure with enough executive orders and fiats against the people and Constitution of the United States, you and those like you will have the Utopia and Nirvana he has promised.

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Darwinism is all well and good until you reduce a planeload of paying passengers to a 500 foot circular divot of blood, teeth, hair, and eyeballs.

Where we need natural selection to work its magic is in the training, checking, and interviewing arenas. Far too many meatheads have wended their ways into the cockpits of airliners. It is a stain on the profession.

The people in the back don't want to pay anything to ride...That's the market...Sorry, but they get what they pay for...
 
It is real nice when someone links your post in their reply, however redacts the
pertinent information replacing it instead with, "blah blah blah" then proceeds to
slanderously quote statements and implications nowhere to be found in the
redacted posts link? It is further absurd when others implicitly refer to slanderous
ilk in their own posts?

Have you ever wondered why the FAA never conducts studies or collects data
following implementation of these scandalous and fraudulent pursuits of safety?
There were three separate studies and findings between the NTSB and FAA from
1969 to 1972. Most notably and ironically, the largest and strongest justification
for the (then) extremely expensive "TCAS Tech" was not sought until after the first
DC9/Piper mash-up over Indianapolis. It was tabled and not successfully lobbied
until AFTER DEREGULATION and a nearly identical collision over Cerritos 15 years
later.

NATA Conducted a Study that wasn't real well known and scuttled by the FAA in
2003 when EGPWS was proposed to curb CFIT. NATA based their data collection
and justification AGAINST EGPWS for turboprops and larger aircraft because of the
expense and lack of performance in other safety "enhancing" measures such as
TCAS deployed by the FAA where they have never proven with a single official and
all encompassing study that MAC accidents and NMAC incidents had been reduced
per 100,000 flight hours FOLLOWING TCAS REQUIRED DEPLOYMENT?

Sure you may "Feel" safety has been ENHANCED, however, as has been said your
exterior windows are the most effective tool in detecting and avoiding traffic. Not
a day passes in the air where I hear a GA Aircraft near a high volume commercial
airport where a discrepancy exists between what that GA Aircraft Xponder is replying
to ATC and what altitude they are actually flying. Your TCAS is going to give false
"feelings" of safety if that Mode C is sending an altitude is outside of YOUR 6,000 feet
of conflict resolution. Vigilance and Diligence PEERING OUT THE WINDOW is 75%
of our business. NOTHING INSIDE the cockpit will ever kill you. EVERYTHING
OUTSIDE the window will.

I challenge you to find one study conducted by the FAA following ANY
MAJOR INITIATIVE where they justify a change/reduction in fatalities as the direct result
of a policy implementation. You will not find one, because the FAA ARROGANTLY
determines the regulatory vehicle they operate like Ted Kennedy in Chappaquiddick
need not be scrutinized because the FAA NEVER makes mistakes and CERTAINLY
will NEVER RETRACT ANY INSTITUTED POLICY regardless of the harm or detriment
such policy may foster from its future and over reliance when it comes to ADM
(Aeronautical Decision Making-for the ERAU Grads).

Cheers, DoinTime! You seem an a55bucket and fond of the regulatorily destructive
pursuit of our government and the 4th Branch of Agencies that can trace no real
purpose to create anything that positively contributes to the edification of our society
and the people in it. Their purposes are self-serving, self-loathing and enforce their
mediocre existence and threaten anyone who would challenge, contradict or confront
their designs.

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I pray my family is never in the back of your airplane. Keep it up Rambo, you'll save these United States from that scary, conspiracy filled govt, all by yourself! You've obviously never worked in a airlines training department. Worked one on one with the FAA. I'm betting you're "that guy" who when speaks in RGS, everyone rolls their eyes.
 
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xjgear,

I would have changed my avatar before making such a reply.
Kind of sending a high, mighty and duplicitous message, don't you think?

FWIW, if your family could afford the seats in the back of my airplane, you
wouldn't be swinging the gear at ExpressJet? Every time the Geniuses you
hold such high regard for, come up with a "great idea", the costs of those
seats go up; earning you less money per year to swing the gear at your
regional and making it even less likely your family would ever be in the
back of my airplane.

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xjgear,

I would have changed my avatar before making such a reply.
Kind of sending a high, mighty and duplicitous message, don't you think?

FWIW, if your family could afford the seats in the back of my airplane, you
wouldn't be swinging the gear at ExpressJet? Every time the Geniuses you
hold such high regard for, come up with a "great idea", the costs of those
seats go up; earning you less money per year to swing the gear at your
regional and making it even less likely your family would ever be in the
back of my airplane.

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My avatar is in humor and my friends in the FAA find it hilarious. It's called sarcasm, your issue runs deeper into paranoia.

Puddle jumper lesson 101 XJT = Express Jet XJ = Mesaba. Thankfully I have a strong union despite the GOP's best efforts to squash any, unity strength, that the american workers have left. My pay in the left seat of the 900 takes care of my family just fine. Last I checked all those extra taxes and security fees were imposed during the village idiot years. But don't worry there's a great country where the govt doesn't impose it's will on the people. Where your hard earned money doesn't get wasted on the weak and poor (WWJD). Let me buy you a one way ticket to Somalia. Enjoy!
 
There's a huge fallacy in the "Recipe" theory.

I personally own a badly-soiled, dog-eared copy of the Joy of Cooking. It allows an inexperienced cook like me to make great dishes for family and friends. I could probably even go into business if I were so inclined, have never worked in the food industry (OK, a pizza busboy freshman year of high school).

Does somebody REALLY think if they teach a pilot with little experience the SOP "recipe", he will magically become a SAFE pilot? Perhaps he will be SAFER but he probably will use the recipe as a crutch. I suppose if you arm the pilot with enough "recipes" he will do an adequate job under most, if not all, normal circumstances. But, having never learned the theory of the recipe and an in-depth understanding through experience and study, he will be clueless on how to account for the few times the recipe doesn't work as planned.

When the feces strikes the axial-flow ventilator, do you want a Renslow, or a Sully at the controls?
 
IB,

A logical and understandable comment. Yes, you start with the recipe. With experience you learn more caution. You apply what you have learned (the hard way) and be the Pilot in command. But - you start with the recipe and build on it. One should not throw the baby out with the bath water.
As I'm told - This is not brain surgery. But a Brain Surgeon can kill only one person at a time, Pilots can kill many more.
Err to the safety side. The first goal of the day is - everybody lives.
 
There's a huge fallacy in the "Recipe" theory.


Does somebody REALLY think if they teach a pilot with little experience the SOP "recipe", he will magically become a SAFE pilot? Perhaps he will be SAFER but he probably will use the recipe as a crutch. I suppose if you arm the pilot with enough "recipes" he will do an adequate job under most, if not all, normal circumstances. But, having never learned the theory of the recipe and an in-depth understanding through experience and study, he will be clueless on how to account for the few times the recipe doesn't work as planned.

Wait, is that why we learn systems too? I always wondered why I spend two weeks learning that stuff when all I thought I needed was a printed procedure. :rolleyes:
 
Please enlighten me how 3407 is to "thank" for this?

This is why:

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20110914/NEWS01/110914003


So, enlighten me. Are you retarded? Or is it your own fault you are such an idiot?

Have you ever heard the theory of boiling a live frog? Hey! Dumba55! GET OUT OF THE POT! By the time you come around to recognize 'something's just not quite right?' YOU'RE DEAD! Or just out of work? Your UNION will live on! with or without YOU.


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This is why:

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20110914/NEWS01/110914003

So, enlighten me. Are you retarded? Or is it your own fault you are such an idiot?



Look, redbearded stepchild: your original post was about DEICING, not the above article you just posted. Remember that? Try to keep up with your own thread, Sport.

You're a real blue plate special, I'm sure, kid.. Complete with waxes eyebrows, fakebake tan, gelled up spiky hair, and that thing you little gear-swingers call a courier (see f*g) bag. Save your keyboard tough guy stuff for someone else.
 
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100 1/2 you are everything that's wrong with this doomed industry and country. If I remember correctly, you've accumulated quite a track record of nonsense on this forum dating back to mid-2008. Do yourself & everyone on this website a favor and take a long walk off a short pier.
 
I pray my family is never in the back of your airplane. Keep it up Rambo, you'll save these United States from that scary, conspiracy filled govt, all by yourself! You've obviously never worked in a airlines training department. Worked one on one with the FAA. I'm betting you're "that guy" who when speaks in RGS, everyone rolls their eyes.


100% agree. That guy is so far gone, its scary.
 
This is why:

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20110914/NEWS01/110914003


So, enlighten me. Are you retarded? Or is it your own fault you are such an idiot?

Have you ever heard the theory of boiling a live frog? Hey! Dumba55! GET OUT OF THE POT! By the time you come around to recognize 'something's just not quite right?' YOU'RE DEAD! Or just out of work? Your UNION will live on! with or without YOU.


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Hey RETARD, where in your article does it link 3407 to icing regulation changes?

Turn off Hannity and Levin, it will make you dumber than you already are, as if that were possible.

Now tell us all how EGPWS hasn't made CFIT almost none-existant in transport aircraft...

I don't know how you keep a medical certificate.
 
So, TCAS and EGPWS are simply tools of an overreaching, interfering Government?

Until some of you realize that the FAA (at the Washington, DC level) is a political origanization, you will never understand why things happen or don't happen.

In the meantime, I will continue to work hard to ensure that Darwinism isn't the method we use to screen pilots. In fact, that has to be the dumbest statement I've read on FlightInfo. Congratulations.

ps - I think xjgearbtch's avatar is funny.
 

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