Not trying to flight with you, but We talk to ALPA and they won't Take (PFE) professional Flight Engineers,( our PFE "most" do not have Pilots licenses) Capital and Evergreen and ATI are (FE) Flight Engineers. which are pilots. trust me i would rather have ALPA any day.
Having worked at Evergreen previously and currently with ATI I will tell you for a fact the ALPA does and recently has accepted PFEs. Most of ATI's PFEs do not have pilots licenses but do have A&Ps. ALPA even had PFEs in 1999 when the Emery pilots voted them in. If you don't believe me ask the former ATI and Emery employees that now work at Southern.
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