SWAPA unhappy with new FT/DT rules

[LeeRoyJenkins]

Bubba...

Just because someone critiques you doesn't mean they hate you. I guess every teacher who gave you a C in school hated you.

You boys just need to get over yourselves.

Pot meet kettle.

 

[waveflyer]

Hating is a compliment, bubba- you're not right until the losers start whining about you

And fubi- you're definitely a hater! Just think you need an urban dictionary or a conversation with someone 20 years younger who can somehow explain it to you-

 

[Fubijaakr]

Once again, the arrogance of SWA pilots rears its ugly head. Look up hubris, boys.

 

[LeeRoyJenkins]

Once again, the arrogance of SWA pilots rears its ugly head. Look up hubris, boys.

Pot meet kettle.

 

[Fubijaakr]

Pot meet kettle.

Nothing like incisive anal-ysis.

 

[waveflyer]

Hey, don't make my arrogance all of swapa's

I alone am responsible for that
But then again, everyone loves me and I didn't get C's, so....

 

[waveflyer]

Anyone know how the duty time/168 hours is going to affect our schedules, yet?
With the average WN schedule can we fly more or less?

 

[Fubijaakr]

As am I. However, it amazes me how the FI SWA group can be so defensive when you're all so obviously superior to everyone due to your large....

...paychecks.

 

[Flying the Line]

Anyone know how the duty time/168 hours is going to affect our schedules, yet?
With the average WN schedule can we fly more or less?

Yes we can fly up to 9 hrs per day. I don't see how this limits our pay. It's just the tournament level players that are looking to fly 24/7.

 

[waveflyer]

Well, no level 10 player here- just like to travel and wish 30/7 wouldn't keep me from grouping my flying together more- I've got a lot of FA friends who get whole weeks off just by flying 6-7 in a row- wish we had that option-
So my question isn't about flight time in a day-
It's how does the 60-65 hrs of duty/168hrs relate to the 30/7? And verifying that 30/7 is going away-
The FAA doc is actually a good read- all the comments from various airlines- but I'm finding it tough to see the actual ruling condensed

 

[Hose A. Jiminez]

SWAPA has not and is not seeking an exemption like the Cargo carriers were allowed.

We are against the Cargo exemption because the pilots of the Cargo carriers are against the exemption. We stand behind them.

 

[fr8doggie]

swapa has not and is not seeking an exemption like the cargo carriers were allowed.

We are against the cargo exemption because the pilots of the cargo carriers are against the exemption. We stand behind them.

thanks!!!

 

[Fubijaakr]

Agreed. Its the cargo guys who need FT/DT regs more than anyone.

 

[Snapshot]

I'm starting to think that pilots in america are some of the lowest paid anywhere bc we don't like to read, think independently, and are so easily manipulated through rumor and he said/she said-

DingDingDingDingDingDing


Hell. That's the root cause of damn near every problem we as a profession or as a nation face.
If only Jefferson could forsee what a pipe-dream a "well informed citizenry" would turn out to be.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Your highly-placed source is yanking your chain. There is a contingent of pilots in SWAPA that is not happy with the rules change (for the reason you stated), but SWAPA's official position ) is to support the rules. The position was that the changes were coming whether we liked it or not, and by having a "seat at the table" through CAPA, we'd have a voice for input. SWAPA, due to one of its members actually being the current CAPA president, even asked for its members to write politicians to get the rules implemented (some in the federal administration were "stalling.") That also upset some members. They did lobby against the carveout for cargo carriers (for the reason mentioned above that we all share the same airspace).

Bubba

Now that's some funny $hit.....Capa having a seat at the table.....

 

[SWA Bubba]

Now that's some funny $hit.....Capa having a seat at the table.....

Hey, I never said that they actually had a seat at ANY table, that did anything but watch. All I said was that was their official line as to why they supported the rules change. See the difference?

Bubba

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Yes...

Standing down.

 

[relief tube]

So people can't pick up extra time now.....feel really sorry for you.

Maybe now there can be some hiring again and greedy folk who would work to 89 if they could might spend more time at home and learn to enjoy having hobbies.

(If the means you want to live in mean you have to pick up extra flying just to pay for it, maybee you should live within different means- a 30k car works just as good as a 50k car)