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Been around the block a long time. Trust me on this one, you can take that leap with a great deal of confidence. There is no place like it and you will soon understand what I speak. I can assure you that you this is the best stroke of luck you have ever encountered no matter what the final "details".

Hang on and enjoy the ride.
 
Seems like a couple people at atnALPA do not agree with the direction of the MC and leaked bits of information to try and derail the talks. When that did not work they actually stopped the MC from going to DALLAS. All the talk about trusting the MC and recalling those who were medelling in the MC and now this. It all seems very unprofessional to me. Now we can't stop talking about an agreement that is not finished and may never be finished if some get there way. I can only shake my head.

That's very sad. The actions of PCL are well documented in trying to derail the talks before they got started. I sure hope this doesn't turn out like other negotiations where a small vocal group ruins a fantastic future for the rest of the group. Going to be interesting.
 
Guys,

I know we are all starved for information but SWAPA, SWA Management, and ATN MC agreed to keep a lid on things until both the SWAPA BOD and ATN MEC vote to determine whether the deal is fair enough to let the pilots vote on it. No one on here has even half the facts. Let's be patient and let the details come out before rushing to judgement. In the meanwhile, contact your rep and let them know your opinion on whether you want a vote.
 
Don't worry about PCL128. He already took a bullet for wasting the MC's time.


I can not begin to tell the damage he has done. He is obsessed with Alpa. Will be ironic when he realizes how Alpo is just using him before they toss him to the curb, with all there empty promises to him.
 
Been around the block a long time. Trust me on this one, you can take that leap with a great deal of confidence. There is no place like it and you will soon understand what I speak. I can assure you that you this is the best stroke of luck you have ever encountered no matter what the final "details".

Hang on and enjoy the ride.

I can't wait for the FUTURE!
 
Been around the block a long time. Trust me on this one, you can take that leap with a great deal of confidence. There is no place like it and you will soon understand what I speak. I can assure you that you this is the best stroke of luck you have ever encountered no matter what the final "details".

Hang on and enjoy the ride.

Thanks for the encouragement, I'm sure it'll be fine, uncertainty gets to us all sometimes. :)

Guys,

I know we are all starved for information but SWAPA, SWA Management, and ATN MC agreed to keep a lid on things until both the SWAPA BOD and ATN MEC vote to determine whether the deal is fair enough to let the pilots vote on it. No one on here has even half the facts. Let's be patient and let the details come out before rushing to judgement. In the meanwhile, contact your rep and let them know your opinion on whether you want a vote.
Sorry Max, I'll go back to lurking... ;)
 
That's very sad. The actions of PCL are well documented in trying to derail the talks before they got started. I sure hope this doesn't turn out like other negotiations where a small vocal group ruins a fantastic future for the rest of the group. Going to be interesting.

It is not PCL anymore. Sounds like it is the group that had PCL recalled. That is the ironic thing. They kicked out PCL for meddling in the process yet are neck deep in it. Now the Union seems split. They have started to back peddle a bit but the way things turned out are a mess. I don't know if our MC has even made it back to Dallas to resume negotiating. No real information is making it to our group.
 
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Wow. Just wow.


Hey Red,

It's the AirTran way .... It's not pretty, but it is interesting. Kind of like 'police activity' in College Park, Atlanta.

One of the problems has been the rate and accuracy of the information that was released. It varied with the Reps, from closed mouthed to wide open. Unfortunately the "wide open" mouths were not fully educated. The reason for the disparity was two fold; The agreement was in its infancy and some of the Reps fired before they aimed.

After being wound around the "not fully educated" pole, I'm going to shut up and wait for the details. I am hopeful, and I do trust our Merger Committee. I always have.

Cheers.
 
What? You've been one of the biggest "Give me relative or see you in court" guys on here.

Why, now, are you playing nice, being patient and curious about life on the bottom without throwing a fit?

Gup
 
What? You've been one of the biggest "Give me relative or see you in court" guys on here.

Why, now, are you playing nice, being patient and curious about life on the bottom without throwing a fit?

Gup

Seriously Gup???
 
Angels don't start conflicts because they're bored waiting on the full language.
Cmon man, be good- and if not, be smart
 
As stated earlier, I think most of us may have posted things we've regretted later. I'd say Dicko has been pretty consistent the past month with getting this done and moving on.

As far as the internal AAI politics, I hope the minor vocal dudes don't ruin it for the good guys (and I say that without knowing the full language myself), but we can all evaluate it later when it makes it to our doors.
 
Why do the AT union guys feel at liberty to divulge the AIP particulars? If the SWA guys are not releasing info, I assume that was the ROE when the meeting adjourned. Not very classy on in my opinion.
 
Why do the AT union guys feel at liberty to divulge the AIP particulars? If the SWA guys are not releasing info, I assume that was the ROE when the meeting adjourned. Not very classy on in my opinion.

I agree. Old scores are trying to be settled now too, if it wasn't for my career that they are trying to mess with, I might find it entertaining!
 

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