SWAPA Delines To Represent AirTran Pilots

[Daddy]

Drag and ASA hit the nail on the head. AT guys and gals don't look to much into this.

I agree...this had very little to do with airtran

 

[Saluki Dawg]

Ditto for what has already been said. This had zero to do with AirTran Pilots and everything to do with several other internal constitutional issues. I'm fairly confident that if the AirTran transitional member vote had been the only thing on the ballot that it would have passed with flying colors on our side. There was absolutely no disrespect intended to anyone at AirTran with this vote. Unfortunately, it was a casualty of several other Ammendments to the SWAPA Constitution that were highly controversial on the SWA side of the partition.

 

[Clyde Frog]

Like someone said its "taxation without representation"

Thanks to the SW gents that voted no.

 

[PCL_128]

However, I felt having "transitional" members with different privileges, voting rights, etc was not the way to guy. 100% SWA or not. Keep it simple--get all the Air Tran folks over and continue operating our union the way we have in the past.

Thank you. Well said.

 

[Britpilot]

Keep it simple--get all the Air Tran folks over and continue operating our union the way we have in the past.

Wish that could be so but, as you know, that is not going to happen.

 

[Turtle21]

I believe this is a little bit more than just an internal issue--since some Air Tran guys are scratching their head. Speaking for me, personally, I voted against the proposal. I will be the first to welcome any new SWA pilot (whether Air Tran, new hire or internal). I don't care--welcome new brothers and sisters. However, I felt having "transitional" members with different privileges, voting rights, etc was not the way to guy. 100% SWA or not. Keep it simple--get all the Air Tran folks over and continue operating our union the way we have in the past.

PCL and Rez would disagree... 100% ALPA,or not. :lol: ALPA mergers are so much more peaceful and collegial, not.

 

[Citrusflyer]

It was a lousy deal, anyway. Having the to pay dues while having no rights under the constitution & bylaws (i.e. to file a grievance) nor vote on anything other than representatives .. insulting. Glad it went down.

 

[vixin]

Your welcome. Some actually thought it sucked for our Tranny bros.

 

[Kharma Police]

Your welcome. Some actually thought it sucked for our Tranny bros.

Keep it real, you and SWAPA wern't thinking about us, which is all good, I understand. PCL is just happy we will be ALPA for a little while longer.

 

[waveflyer]

I think you don't understand what was voted on karma- head to prune and find out the details

 

[Dan Roman]

Your welcome. Some actually thought it sucked for our Tranny bros.

Odd, you were one of tha many who was relentlessly bashing the AirTran guys and calling for a staple.

 

[vixin]

Now they are on property. What was in the changes wasn't right. I still think they got more then they should but that is my opinion. They have there own.

 

[PCL_128]

PCL is just happy we will be ALPA for a little while longer.

We were going to be ALPA for a while longer no matter how that vote turned out. I'm glad it got turned down because the proposed changes were not good for us in the slightest. Putting us into a separate category of membership with reduced rights is wrong.

 

[shootr]

It put you in a separate category AND kept you at 2% dues while we kept paying 1%. I thought that was B.S. and it's one of many reasons I voted no on that issue.

 

[Luv2BFlyin]

In all fairness, it would be hard for SWAPA to administer our CBA for a significantly large portion of our pilots. The CAB is struggling with just our hotel section. There will be an orderly transition once the majority of FAT pilots are on the WN side of the fence, until then, ATN ALPA is best for all parties involved.