SWA yes vote:

[LeeRoyJenkins]

Go to arbitration! Save all the heartburn....for best results, ask for a guy named Eischen......

You don't get out much do you?

 

[Muppets]

Who said it was dangerous? Just more work intensive for the WATRS routes and trying to understand what they're saying.

Bill, the CUN ovnt is the Gran Melia resort and spa and the PUN is the NH Real Arena.

No more info until the SWA guys are stapled to the bottom of our list....

 

[texman]

Heh heh.

Some international CAN be dangerous, the mountainous areas with no radar coverage aren't for slackers, but I have no doubt you guys could do it just as safely as anyone else (and nowhere we go is that difficult).

Been there and done that, and you are right it's a keep you on your toes flying.

 

[En Mort Main]

I would like to know what this plan b is that that the SWA pilots are alluding to...Since GK is evidentally willing to throw away 1.4billion dollars because SWAPA wants staple or nothing.

En Mort Main

 

[Tripower455]

I would like to know what this plan b is that that the SWA pilots are alluding to...Since GK is evidentally willing to throw away 1.4billion dollars because SWAPA wants staple or nothing.

En Mort Main

Actually, it would be far cheaper in the long run for Gary to replace you guys with new hires. Not that anyone wants that, of course.

 

[Ty Webb]

Actually, it would be far cheaper in the long run for Gary to replace you guys with new hires. Not that anyone wants that, of course.

Not as cheap as it would be to replace you guys, but hey, no one wants that, either. That's called a whipsaw.

 

[Tripower455]

Not as cheap as it would be to replace you guys, but hey, no one wants that, either. That's called a whipsaw.

True, but we're already here and a known quantity.

 

[SWA/FO]

Our contract is too good for that to happen Ty. We have an excellent relationship with Southwest. Yes, SWAPA has an excellent relationship with Southwest. Repeat that 10 times.

Fork in the road moment. :cartman:

 

[mayoplane]

No offense.

I just feel screwed.

Its like Dad tells you this small family will come live in our nice big house, and these people walk in with muddy shoes and cranky attitude saying, "i want this big room, this is what i want for lunch, wanna park our cars in the garage too, by the way i dislike every single one of u in this house. This house is not that great."

I realize you are forced to move in, but you WILL gain quite a bit from this. SWA pilots gain nothing. Im not looking forward to it at all.

 

[SWA/FO]

I would like to know what this plan b is that that the SWA pilots are alluding to...Since GK is evidentally willing to throw away 1.4billion dollars because SWAPA wants staple or nothing

.

I think we have moved off the "staple or nothing" like you guys have moved off your demands.

I would guess, plan B is: dump the 717 and interview to fill New Pilot positions. Gary will save 1 Billion dollars by hiring rather then acquiring. He is a numbers guy. Like any good CEO, he didn't paint himself into a corner. 1,000,000,000 of that 1.4 is debt from tranny (how did they plan to pay that off?) :cartman:

 

[Ty Webb]

I just feel screwed.

Its like Dad tells you this small family will come live in our nice big house, and these people walk in with muddy shoes and cranky attitude saying, "i want this big room, this is what i want for lunch, wanna park our cars in the garage too, by the way i dislike every single one of u in this house. This house is not that great."

I realize you are forced to move in, but you WILL gain quite a bit from this. SWA pilots gain nothing. Im not looking forward to it at all.

I can see that analogy, for sure, except rooms are being added to your house. . . . . And, although I understand your perception, I think you would find that we all wipe our feet, use our "indoor" voices, and eat what is served, or bring our own. Hell, we even help with the c*************************.

Whutthuhale? Can't write c-h-o-r-e-s on here? :laugh:

 

[Tripower455]

I just feel screwed.

Its like Dad tells you this small family will come live in our nice big house, and these people walk in with muddy shoes and cranky attitude saying, "i want this big room, this is what i want for lunch, wanna park our cars in the garage too, by the way i dislike every single one of u in this house. This house is not that great."

I realize you are forced to move in, but you WILL gain quite a bit from this. SWA pilots gain nothing. Im not looking forward to it at all.

I used a similar analogy back when this nightmare started, and was accused of elitism.

But the above analogy is the truth, if you believe that FI portrays the prevailing attitude.

From my encounters with AAI folks on the prison bus in MCO, the FI attitude is not representative. We'll see I guess.

 

[SWA/FO]

I just feel screwed.

Its like Dad tells you this small family will come live in our nice big house, and these people walk in with muddy shoes and cranky attitude saying, "i want this big room, this is what i want for lunch, wanna park our cars in the garage too, by the way i dislike every single one of u in this house. This house is not that great."

I realize you are forced to move in, but you WILL gain quite a bit from this. SWA pilots gain nothing. Im not looking forward to it at all.

Except, Mom says "Dad is coming home from work and I'm going to tell him how you been behaving all day" - off comes the belt after Dad finishes his first 40!

 

[Ty Webb]

Fly duh plane, SWA/FO. Business ain't your forte. :laugh:

 

[canyonblue]

Its like Dad tells you this small family will come live in our nice big house, and these people walk in with muddy shoes and cranky attitude saying, "i want this big room, this is what i want for lunch, wanna park our cars in the garage too, by the way i dislike every single one of u in this house. This house is not that great."

I was thinking more along this:

Spalding Smails: I want a hamburger. No, cheeseburger. I want a hot dog. I want a milkshake. I want potato chips

Judge Smails: You'll get nothing, and like it!

 

[slaquer5]

I can see that analogy, for sure, except rooms are being added to your house. . . . . And, although I understand your perception, I think you would find that we all wipe our feet, use our "indoor" voices, and eat what is served, or bring our own. Hell, we even help with the c*************************.

Whutthuhale? Can't write c-h-o-r-e-s on here? :laugh:

Ty I don't like most of what you put out, but I do like this one. It is your best post yet.

 

[birdman1]

That's because the ALPA job killing machine and their loud mouth legal eagle's have promised the AT guys that they are entitled to every thing they want and the SWAPA guys will be happy to take nothing from this sh#$t sandwich we have had forced on us.

I can assure you that the SWAPA group will have no problem voting no on any deal that hurts any SWAPA pilot on the property.

Skywest airlines owns ASA and the two have no plans to get into bed and if SWAPA is presented with a bad deal SWA will own AT via Guadalupe holdings and the two never have to be combined.....look it up.....read it and weep but if SWAPA and SWA agree to keep the two groups apart the arbitrator and his ruling will have no power of say in the matter

the AT guys should take the staple and be happy with the big pay raise and stop trying to steal what is not theirs.

Staple staple

[FONT=&quot]Man, it's been a long time since I've been on here, and it is working out just as I predicted...another nasty USAir situation. Your right, SWA and Tranny can operate separately for a long time. But will a divided LUV be successful? NO!!! Delta and other carriers will kill you both over time. I predict within about 5 years a new management team will move into the big D and demand major concessions from you guys due to some nasty loses. But it is your call SWAPA...pilots can fly aeroplanes but they can't run a business.[/FONT]

 

[kwick]

SWAPA is creating a lot of "BAD KARMA" trying to steal AT Captain seats and
seniority.

Gotta feeling it's gonna come back on them someday!

Not gonna be too many people feel sorry for them when
it happens.

 

[SWA/FO]

SWAPA is creating a lot of "BAD KARMA" trying to steal AT Captain seats and seniority.

:laugh: Don't make me laugh.

No way in HELL trannies should get our money. I know its not about the money anyway. Stay on your own pay then, and commute to ATL forever.

 

[Kenney G]

Not one to chime in often, but this deserves one. Love all this talk about SWA culture from a bunch of guys who have not a single clue what SWA culture is. Remember this. SWA is probably one of the best companies out there to work for. They respect their employees, treat them well and pay them well. I love working for this company. They are not that way to their competitors. They are ruthless with a smile. For the Airtran guys to think we will simply roll over and give you everything you want goes against our nature. Remember. Just because you are owned by a SUBSIDIARY of our does not make you a SWA employee, nor does it automatically make you entitled to what we have and have earned. This will not go to arbitration. We will do our best to make this as palatable as possible. We want all of you to be happy...truly. Mark my word. If you push this too far it will end before it goes to an arbitrator and we will all be at a loss. This airline has teeth. Don"t let ALPA, who knows you are gone the second an agreement is reached convince you otherwise.

FACT. Airtran is no longer a competitor but part of your group. Treat them as such.

 

[redflyer65]

If Ty wants to keep his seat, then fine, he can keep his pay and contract. If Airtran ALPA tries to burn this down, all 1700 will pay the ultimate price. Don't believe Gary will do it? Try him.

 

[DGdaPilot]

Man this thread actually makes me happy that I don't work for luv.

 

[Bake]

We are happy you don't work for LUV too. Look how easy that was to agree on something.

 

[DGdaPilot]

We are happy you don't work for LUV too. Look how easy that was to agree on something.

Right on. But I'll still wave next time I see ya toppin' off the ol' 73 at the local Chevron. Watch the stuck mike! :beer:

 

[Bake]

awe dude???? you had to go and ruin something we agreed on. Obviously you have a bone to pick.

 

[On Your Six]

:laugh: Don't make me laugh.

No way in HELL trannies should get our money. I know its not about the money anyway. Stay on your own pay then, and commute to ATL forever.

That just won't happen. Airtran pilots will get the huge raise, and stock. SWA pilots won't lose a dime, may get a 5% raise (add that to the Airtran guys too), and get some stock also. Arbitration will resolve the SLI, and that will be it. Count on it. If not, USAir #2 here we come.


OYS

 

[On Your Six]

If Ty wants to keep his seat, then fine, he can keep his pay and contract. If Airtran ALPA tries to burn this down, all 1700 will pay the ultimate price. Don't believe Gary will do it? Try him.

That will be up to the arbitrator, not SWAPA. Btw, how did the Colgan guys do on the latest arbitration award? Oooops. Not looking good for you. You will be powerless, so just go with the flow red. GK also has pressure from business types to keep this going. Do you know how many M&A people are working on this? You pilots are just a fart in the room when it comes to this merger. Just concentrate on the joint contract and getting those Airtran pilots PAID.....it will give you a warm feeling inside. LUV them.


OYS

 

[Bake]

OH dam OYS, now you made me think about this chick in my avatar blowing wind. I must change it tomorrow. she will never be the same. Way to go dude. You probably scare them away like that on the road too.

 

[On Your Six]

OH dam OYS, now you made me think about this chick in my avatar blowing wind. I must change it tomorrow. she will never be the same. Way to go dude. You probably scare them away like that on the road too.

Just think about it this way, she just met SWA/FO, and that's why she passed gas. Everyone he meets does that. It's not you. Relax, and say hi to her for me in your dreams.


OYS

 

[Flycatcher99]

That just won't happen. Airtran pilots will get the huge raise, and stock. SWA pilots won't lose a dime, may get a 5% raise (add that to the Airtran guys too), and get some stock also. Arbitration will resolve the SLI, and that will be it. Count on it. If not, USAir #2 here we come.


OYS

Every time you post, you set a new high score for ignorance. Here's a tip, when you say "count on it", it only shows that even you don't believe your own drivel.

You're welcome.