SWA wants to fly from HOU to MEX and SouthAmerica

[Flopgut]

To add to it look at what AT will be doing out of SAT. It will happen just not out of IAH. If you are worried about us, you need to worry about open skies part two. This will destroy all US airlines.

Flop,

What is good for CAL is good for you, what is good for SWA is good for me. Denying SWA Int'l service out of HOU, is a win for CAL (good for you). You are not the honest broker in this argument (as are any SWA pilot on here who responds). This will come down to the City Council, who have handshake deals with CAL and have invested heavily in IAH, that does not make them an honest broker either...it seems that $130 fares to Bogota will be trumped by whatever promises took place between UCAL and the City of HOUston...

Guys: You've been more than fair to me on this and I appreciate it. I am following this very close and being as active as I can outside FI. For me it's personal, and there are a two generations involved.

Something has to stand in the way of simple de-regulation as a national air transportation policy. Something like a 9-11 ought not transpire and it be such a windfall for only one airline segment. I'm not trying to be an honest broker for anything but legacy pilots in general. My airline is gone; Turned into something else. I'll pbly end up flying expat at some point.

SWA has put forth a very sloppy proposal here and I think it's a chance to give legacies a boost if we block Hobby as an international hub. And it's the right thing to do! I don't care if you guys fly South. I don't want to see any more airport favoritism toward SWA.

 

[waveflyer]

Cool- you get that it's all biased-
But it's an illogical argument to say that swa gets favored treatment when you're the one who has their own Goliath airport, built by the city, and we're at the airport that was built in the 30's.

 

[outerlimits]

What stoped u from learning spelling and punctuation in grade school ?

Sports and girls

Some may think that is overrated

 

[Whataburger]

I saw a pizza delivery van and a Best Buy delivery van infront of Houston City Hall today. Uh oh!!!

 

[Double Shot]

Flop
You are being pathetic

 

[Flopgut]

Flop
You are being pathetic

Despite making it over there where you are paid top dollar, I realize you are not at all comfortable with there being even a glimmer of hope for your former airline. That's pathetic....

 

[Flopgut]

Cool- you get that it's all biased-
But it's an illogical argument to say that swa gets favored treatment when you're the one who has their own Goliath airport, built by the city, and we're at the airport that was built in the 30's.

One of the dumbest things I've ever seen a smart guy write.

Nevermind there are over a dozen other airlines at IAH. That you managed to see past the same issue at Hartsfield. That there are currently 12 open gates at IAH. Or that your airline used to serve this airport!! You chose the airport built in the 30s! You have also chosen to not update it much. Do you think possible business decision errors should not have consequences?

You can argue with me all you want. You know your mgt guys have handled this like amatuers.

 

[Flopgut]

You guys been asking if I have any proof of this 40 year old aviation policy limiting Hobby to domestic only. Go to this link:

http://dig.abclocal.go.com/ktrk/SWA-UACorrespondence.pdf

Read the two letters that start on page 11, and page 14.

No restrictions? Appears there is a specific case precedent that refers to multi airport municipal airport authorities and the need to limit certain types of operations to one field. If I read it right, it's part of what is currently governing the use of Dallas airports for international flts, which is something SWA has already agreed to?! (interesting) The result of airlines using one international airport's FIS and CBT facilities is that costs go down for all users equally. Which means everyone's ticket prices can go down, and that truly serves all customers. Not just one airline's.

Like I said, there appears to be a case precedent. Ought to be pretty cut and dry, really. But afterall you're SWA [special], so we'll see. We're not the commodity, in reality. We [airlines and airports] make/establish the market. One airport for competition is the best thing for the customer.

 

[Double Shot]

Flop,

I don't care about continental. If you went out of business would not bother me at all. You are just going on and on about something that is going to happen anyway. You just don't quit whining. You can't change the outcome. So why cry over it

 

[PCL_128]

You guys been asking if I have any proof of this 40 year old aviation policy limiting Hobby to domestic only. Go to this link:

http://dig.abclocal.go.com/ktrk/SWA-UACorrespondence.pdf

Read the two letters that start on page 11, and page 14.

No restrictions? Appears there is a specific case precedent that refers to multi airport municipal airport authorities and the need to limit certain types of operations to one field. If I read it right, it's part of what is currently governing the use of Dallas airports for international flts, which is something SWA has already agreed to?! (interesting) The result of airlines using one international airport's FIS and CBT facilities is that costs go down for all users equally. Which means everyone's ticket prices can go down, and that truly serves all customers. Not just one airline's.

Like I said, there appears to be a case precedent. Ought to be pretty cut and dry, really. But afterall you're SWA [special], so we'll see. We're not the commodity, in reality. We [airlines and airports] make/establish the market. One airport for competition is the best thing for the customer.

That link doesn't show anything that you claim it does. The precedent that you refer to is nothing but FAA approval for cities to implement policies of restricting access to a single airport if that's what they want to do. However, Houston has not done that. There is no policy to limit international flights to a single airport in Houston. The precedent you reference gives Houston the right to implement that policy if they want to, but they haven't done that. Your argument that there is a single airport policy in Houston is flat out wrong.