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Your never to junior to get it off. Or learn grammar.
SWA may work different than other airlines, but as a rule, we don't have enough reserves to cover all the uncovered flying, including sickcalls. Manning is run lean, and reserves don't generally sit around waiting for someone to call in sick. I'm a junior captain in a medium senior base, so I've been on reserve for the last 14 months. That's generally 15 days of reserve per month, in 3 or 4 day blocks. In that 14 months, there's been only two days where I didn't get used for something. And only one month when I didn't overfly my guarantee.
In the summertime, this problem is even worse. Bumped up flight schedule, lots of people with vacations, and people with "sick call vacations," because they need or want time off. During the summer, they are using every reserve and still paying premium for people to fly open time, every damn week.
The other problem with a sick call is that when you call in sick the night before, they often have to use several pilots to cover various parts of your trip, plus deadheads to get people to and fro. And since deadheads pay the same as flying, it adds up. I think I read that to cover the average three-day sick call trip paying 21tfp, the company ends up paying something like 29tfp to others to get it covered. (Not to mention the 21tfp they're paying the sick guy.)
Boy, talk about thread creep! I thought this was about SWA flying international out of HOU.
Bubba
I have no issues with someone calling in sick if you're taking care of a sick child. My wife works as well and we will take turns on who stays with the kids when they're sick. If my spouse truly is sick enough that she needs someone at home, I have no issues with people using sick time for that.
My primary problem is those that use their allotted sick time as xxx hrs of available vacation. Eh, it's a nice day out, let's call in sick. That's crap. It's those folks that are collectively taking a dump on my profit sharing.
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You may not have an issue with that. Does SWA management have an issue with that? A serious question because the answer is probably yes. When your kid is sick do you call your boss and say "I need to use a sick day, my child is sick." Or, do you just call in sick. If so, that is fraud. At least in the eyes most management types it is fraud. I'm not condoning it or condeming it. I'm just calling at as most airline managements would see it.
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Fr8doggie
To answer your question, every time I've called in sick, I've given the reason I'm calling in. My wife is in premature labor....I have strep...my daughter is running a 103 deg temp and my wife has a meeting she really can't miss....etc.
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Actually, FMLA specifically includes care for a sick child. And in many cases you can use sick leave during FMLA. I guess each specific company would designate what you can or can not use sick leave for.
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In many departments, recorded lines aren't a concern.
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http://www.chron.com/default/article/Hobby-lobby-Dueling-airlines-political-3510887.php
Hobby lobby: Dueling airlines' political operations take off
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In pressing its message that international flights out of Hobby Airport will harm the local economy, United Airlines is drawing on a vast reservoir of good will built up by Continental Airlines, Houston's hometown airline until it was swallowed up by United in a merger.
Continental filled that reservoir with decades of good corporate citizenship, operatives with deep ties to City Hall and tens of thousands of dollars in donations to politicians' campaigns.
By contrast, Southwest Airlines has kept such a low profile in local political circles that the councilman whose district includes Hobby, one of Southwest's busiest locations, told a colleague last year that he did not even know how to get in touch with Southwest's governmental affairs people.
"United's got the political muscle. They've always had the political muscle," said Robert Miller, a City Hall lobbyist who is not working for either airline. "It's not in Southwest's DNA. It's in United's DNA. It's a legacy carrier that's always been involved in politics."
And at the moment, the battle for Hobby is all about politics.
Relationship business
Both sides have enlisted A-list lobbying teams. United's includes Marty Stein, who until little more than a year ago was Mayor Annise Parker's agenda director; former City Attorney Anthony Hall and Greater Houston Partnership Airports Task Force Chair Michelle Baden. Southwest has former City Councilwoman Graci Saenz, and Jeri Brooks, communications director for Parker's 2009 campaign, lobbying at City Hall. State Rep. Garnet Coleman also is advising Southwest.
Darrin Hall, Parker's deputy chief of staff, called it the largest and most intense lobbying effort he has ever seen in eight years at City Hall.
Then, there is the money. A Chronicle review of campaign contribution records dating back to 2007 turned up nearly $90,000 in donations to current council members, the mayor and the 2010 inaugural celebration by Continental's employees political action committee, and past and present Continental/United executives. Parker alone has received $52,298 since the beginning of her last term as controller.
It's not just money, explained Chris Bell, a former city councilman and former congressman.
"Politics is a relationship business and those relationships are built up over time," he said. Continental built those relationships, not with just campaign cash, but by sponsoring and buying tables at local events, supporting arts organizations, lobbying and being out in the community.
In addition, United Continental Holdings is the fifth-largest donor to U.S. Rep. Kevin Brady over his 21 years in Congress, with contributions totaling $49,000. Brady has written a letter to Parker opposing a Customs facility at Hobby, echoing United's argument that it could drain officers away from an already understaffed Bush Intercontinental.
No Southwest donations turned up in the Chronicle's review. That is because there are none to be found, executives say.
"Every fight we've been in over our 40-year history, it's popular support against contributions," said Ron Ricks, Southwest's executive vice president and chief legal and regulatory officer, while lobbying Council outside chambers this week. Southwest has appealed for popular support with its "Free Hobby" Web site that prompts visitors to contact council members with messages of support for Hobby expansion.
'Carpet bombing'
Southwest appeared to have the early momentum. Calls to council offices largely have favored Southwest. Travelers predicted the airline would bring lower fares to both Houston airports and expressed their frustrations over service as United continues merging two airlines into one. Even Parker sent out a tweet complaining about United after a long flight delay.
United also rankled civic leaders when it moved 1,500 Continental corporate headquarters jobs to Chicago.
Finally, an airport-commissioned study concluded that Hobby going global would create 10,000 jobs and inject $1.6 billion a year into the local economy.
All that disintegrated for three hours last Monday as council members blistered Airport Director Mario Diaz for what they saw as a flawed, biased study, seemingly delivering United's talking points from the dais.
There is no formal deal on the table yet, as the city and Southwest would have to negotiate an agreement for the construction of a Customs facility at Hobby.
As Hall, Parker's deputy chief of staff, put it: "United's efforts so far are a bit like carpet bombing the Mojave Desert. While impressive, there is largely no target yet as of this time."
Still, with conflicting forecasts about the economic impact of an expanded Hobby, it's not a black and white issue, Miller said. A gray area is developing, and that is where lobbying can be influential.
"It absolutely comes into play," Miller said.
Hobby lobby: Dueling airlines' political operations take off
Page 1 of 1
In pressing its message that international flights out of Hobby Airport will harm the local economy, United Airlines is drawing on a vast reservoir of good will built up by Continental Airlines, Houston's hometown airline until it was swallowed up by United in a merger.
Continental filled that reservoir with decades of good corporate citizenship, operatives with deep ties to City Hall and tens of thousands of dollars in donations to politicians' campaigns.
By contrast, Southwest Airlines has kept such a low profile in local political circles that the councilman whose district includes Hobby, one of Southwest's busiest locations, told a colleague last year that he did not even know how to get in touch with Southwest's governmental affairs people.
"United's got the political muscle. They've always had the political muscle," said Robert Miller, a City Hall lobbyist who is not working for either airline. "It's not in Southwest's DNA. It's in United's DNA. It's a legacy carrier that's always been involved in politics."
And at the moment, the battle for Hobby is all about politics.
Relationship business
Both sides have enlisted A-list lobbying teams. United's includes Marty Stein, who until little more than a year ago was Mayor Annise Parker's agenda director; former City Attorney Anthony Hall and Greater Houston Partnership Airports Task Force Chair Michelle Baden. Southwest has former City Councilwoman Graci Saenz, and Jeri Brooks, communications director for Parker's 2009 campaign, lobbying at City Hall. State Rep. Garnet Coleman also is advising Southwest.
Darrin Hall, Parker's deputy chief of staff, called it the largest and most intense lobbying effort he has ever seen in eight years at City Hall.
Then, there is the money. A Chronicle review of campaign contribution records dating back to 2007 turned up nearly $90,000 in donations to current council members, the mayor and the 2010 inaugural celebration by Continental's employees political action committee, and past and present Continental/United executives. Parker alone has received $52,298 since the beginning of her last term as controller.
It's not just money, explained Chris Bell, a former city councilman and former congressman.
"Politics is a relationship business and those relationships are built up over time," he said. Continental built those relationships, not with just campaign cash, but by sponsoring and buying tables at local events, supporting arts organizations, lobbying and being out in the community.
In addition, United Continental Holdings is the fifth-largest donor to U.S. Rep. Kevin Brady over his 21 years in Congress, with contributions totaling $49,000. Brady has written a letter to Parker opposing a Customs facility at Hobby, echoing United's argument that it could drain officers away from an already understaffed Bush Intercontinental.
No Southwest donations turned up in the Chronicle's review. That is because there are none to be found, executives say.
"Every fight we've been in over our 40-year history, it's popular support against contributions," said Ron Ricks, Southwest's executive vice president and chief legal and regulatory officer, while lobbying Council outside chambers this week. Southwest has appealed for popular support with its "Free Hobby" Web site that prompts visitors to contact council members with messages of support for Hobby expansion.
'Carpet bombing'
Southwest appeared to have the early momentum. Calls to council offices largely have favored Southwest. Travelers predicted the airline would bring lower fares to both Houston airports and expressed their frustrations over service as United continues merging two airlines into one. Even Parker sent out a tweet complaining about United after a long flight delay.
United also rankled civic leaders when it moved 1,500 Continental corporate headquarters jobs to Chicago.
Finally, an airport-commissioned study concluded that Hobby going global would create 10,000 jobs and inject $1.6 billion a year into the local economy.
All that disintegrated for three hours last Monday as council members blistered Airport Director Mario Diaz for what they saw as a flawed, biased study, seemingly delivering United's talking points from the dais.
There is no formal deal on the table yet, as the city and Southwest would have to negotiate an agreement for the construction of a Customs facility at Hobby.
As Hall, Parker's deputy chief of staff, put it: "United's efforts so far are a bit like carpet bombing the Mojave Desert. While impressive, there is largely no target yet as of this time."
Still, with conflicting forecasts about the economic impact of an expanded Hobby, it's not a black and white issue, Miller said. A gray area is developing, and that is where lobbying can be influential.
"It absolutely comes into play," Miller said.
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"good will built up by Continental Airlines, Houston's hometown airline until it was swallowed"
They mean Houston's hometown airline since 1983 when Lorenzo was screwing everyone in the industry and ... Uh well... Houston's hometown airline for about 10 years when Bethune was at the helm...? Maybe?
It's a good try at branding, but repeating it often doesn't make it true-
Continental was an airline that Houston paid to play in their town, that was playing with denver and LA, and now is playing with chicago-
Everybody knows what united is, but don't pretend that continental has been better- they had one good CEO and thats it.
They mean Houston's hometown airline since 1983 when Lorenzo was screwing everyone in the industry and ... Uh well... Houston's hometown airline for about 10 years when Bethune was at the helm...? Maybe?
It's a good try at branding, but repeating it often doesn't make it true-
Continental was an airline that Houston paid to play in their town, that was playing with denver and LA, and now is playing with chicago-
Everybody knows what united is, but don't pretend that continental has been better- they had one good CEO and thats it.
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