SWA to hire 200

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 1396" data-quote="SIG600" data-source="post: 2427254" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=2427254" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-2427254">SIG600 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> With SWA&#039;s TFP program and how they structure the pay, how does it compare when looking at the hourly pay rate published on APC? Is that page remotely close when comparing say a year 3 FO at SWA to a year 3 737 FO at say UAL, all things being equal? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> If you&#039;re in your early to mid thirties, which I assume you are, go to Delta. If you get a job at SWA, then Delta wants to employ you, go to Delta. A wider range of flying and an earlier upgrade. Even if Delta shrinks, the numbers are better.<br /> <br /> As you know, the industry is cyclical. Delta is rising and SWA is about to travel the path that every Legacy has travelled. They began as an airline that could turn a jet in twenty minutes, now they are unable to turn it in 50 minutes. The DOT metrics are not a point of contention, the cause is.<br /> <br /> The average amount of money a SWA pilot makes depends on a system of premium pay and open time that is not a constant. It depends on factors outside of your control. Multiply the minimum guarantee by your hourly rate. That is the only constant. Until the next contract.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 6524" data-quote="ASH" data-source="post: 2426931" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=2426931" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-2426931">ASH said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Would an fo be willing to post his/her take home pay, with years of service. I know it&#039;s a bit personal but it&#039;s hard to deduce what actual pay is just from a chart, so many variables. Thinking about ditching my overseas job, but have to run the numbers, any help is appreciated.<br /> <br /> Also, would upgrade run about 15 years for a new hire? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <br /> As of the end of August I&#039;ve blocked 608 hours with and average of 135 tfp a month at $118.93 plus $4,700 of per diem.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 5543" data-quote="General Lee" data-source="post: 2426981" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=2426981" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-2426981">General Lee said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> What if you were in the bottom 200 for 7 years?<br /> <br /> <br /> Bye Bye---General Lee </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> That would be terrible bc you&#039;d be stuck on the 73 the WHOLE time</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 19035" data-quote="waveflyer" data-source="post: 2427337" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=2427337" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-2427337">waveflyer said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> That would be terrible bc you&#039;d be stuck on the 73 the WHOLE time </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> True dat!<br /> <br /> Bye Bye---General Lee</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 19035" data-quote="waveflyer" data-source="post: 2427337" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=2427337" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-2427337">waveflyer said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> That would be terrible bc you&#039;d be stuck on the 73 the WHOLE time </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Double post</div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper">Seven years ago I was sold that what is going on now could not happen. Seven years from now who knows what will be going on in any airline.<br /> <br /> Take the job, the first known job you have as an offer. Accel, and move on only of that job is unbearable. There have been very few SWA pilots leave with the excuse that it is unbearable, most are due to family QOL issues.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 5543" data-quote="General Lee" data-source="post: 2427368" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=2427368" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-2427368">General Lee said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> True dat!<br /> <br /> Bye Bye---General Lee </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I know, i plan to go to a legacy where only widebody pilots have a good life</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Anybody ever hear of Flight training international? Good?</div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 19035" data-quote="waveflyer" data-source="post: 2427514" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=2427514" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-2427514">waveflyer said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I know, i plan to go to a legacy where only widebody pilots have a good life </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> You really can&#039;t beat options. Having the option to try different types of flying is a good thing. Some people love long haul flying, and some don&#039;t. At a legacy, you can try all types of flying. Variety is great, and when it pays well too, that is FANTASTIC.<br /> <br /> <br /> Bye Bye---General Lee</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Knew the peace and calm wouldn&#039;t last.<br /> <br /> Poor lil FO GL...trashing everyones neighborhood again.<br /> <br /> fv</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 26433" data-quote="fareview" data-source="post: 2427544" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=2427544" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-2427544">fareview said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Knew the peace and calm wouldn&#039;t last.<br /> <br /> Poor lil FO GL...trashing everyones neighborhood again.<br /> <br /> fv </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> So fv, stating the obvious (variety in planes and flying types (domestic and long haul)) is trashing a neighborhood? I merely stated a truth, didn&#039;t bash him at all. If you want to read an interesting &quot;trashing&quot;, read an Emirates thread on APC. Your own Captains are complaining. I, again, didn&#039;t do any trashing there either. Please don&#039;t be so defensive. Good day.<br /> <br /> <br /> Bye Bye---General Lee</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 5543" data-quote="General Lee" data-source="post: 2427542" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=2427542" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-2427542">General Lee said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> You really can&#039;t beat options. Having the option to try different types of flying is a good thing. Some people love long haul flying, and some don&#039;t. At a legacy, you can try all types of flying. Variety is great, and when it pays well too, that is FANTASTIC.<br /> <br /> <br /> Bye Bye---General Lee </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Do you cut and paste your drivel or do you retype it EVERY time?</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 46514" data-quote="scoreboardII" data-source="post: 2427505" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=2427505" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-2427505">scoreboardII said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Seven years ago I was sold that what is going on now could not happen. Seven years from now who knows what will be going on in any airline.<br /> <br /> Take the job, the first known job you have as an offer. Accel, and move on only of that job is unbearable. There have been very few SWA pilots leave with the excuse that it is unbearable, most are due to family QOL issues. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Accellent! or Eggscellent advice. F$%k it, I can&#039;t spell either.</div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 86009" data-quote="tankerhead" data-source="post: 2427550" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=2427550" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-2427550">tankerhead said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Do you cut and paste your drivel or do you retype it EVERY time? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Some people obviously need repetition. Why so defensive? You disagree with variety? Ohhhhh....kay.... Legacies have variety in planes and types of flying. You can&#039;t say that isn&#039;t true. Good aye.<br /> <br /> <br /> Bye Bye---General Lee</div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper">SW has great options. Who needs the heavy stuff? Flying outa Cali is the cat ass. Never got to go there when I was a tranny. The ground is reel tall out thier.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 28713" data-quote="Clyde Frog" data-source="post: 2427802" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=2427802" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-2427802">Clyde Frog said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> SW has great options. Who needs the heavy stuff? Flying outa Cali is the cat ass. Never got to go there when I was a tranny. The ground is reel tall out thier. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Dude, you DO sober up before you fly, right? Right?!<br /> <br /> Bubba</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 28713" data-quote="Clyde Frog" data-source="post: 2427802" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=2427802" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-2427802">Clyde Frog said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> SW has great options. Who needs the heavy stuff? Flying outa Cali is the cat ass. Never got to go there when I was a tranny. The ground is reel tall out thier. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <br /> Yes<br /> <br /> Yellow dog is very fast. Watch out for the cats, they will bite. <br /> <br /> <br /> PS. IPA. Is great. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 19035" data-quote="waveflyer" data-source="post: 2427516" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=2427516" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-2427516">waveflyer said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Anybody ever hear of Flight training international? Good? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote> <br /> I used em last year, was good. PM if you need more info.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Thanks- got a few PMs vouching for them- <br /> Friend of a friend stuff at my age, but I passed it along- they&#039;re cheap too</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 25151" data-quote="slaquer5" data-source="post: 2427872" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=2427872" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-2427872">slaquer5 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Yes<br /> <br /> Yellow dog is very fast. Watch out for the cats, they will bite. <br /> <br /> <br /> PS. IPA. Is great. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote> <br /> &quot;My Hovercraft . . . . is full of eels&quot;. <br /> <br /> &quot;We can make bouncy-bouncy now; I am no longer infected&quot;.<br /> <br /> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></div>
 
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