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And the majors thought International was the money maker. It looks like the LLC's will once again find away to chip at profit margins.
 
This open skies deal is going to be the biggest change in the U.S. airline industry since deregulation. The LCC's in the U.S. and Europe will all jump in and it will be a slugfest with the established legacies. I'm not quite sure who will win, but all those profits from the Atlantic routes that the legacies are seeing now will likely be much lower in the next couple of years. I
 
This open skies deal is going to be the biggest change in the U.S. airline industry since deregulation. The LCC's in the U.S. and Europe will all jump in and it will be a slugfest with the established legacies. I'm not quite sure who will win, but all those profits from the Atlantic routes that the legacies are seeing now will likely be much lower in the next couple of years. I

Yet another reason that cargo is a more secure career path. Open Skies will not impact FDX, DHL, and UPS the way it will United, AMR, and DAL.
 
Yet another reason that cargo is a more secure career path. Open Skies will not impact FDX, DHL, and UPS the way it will United, AMR, and DAL.


Yeah the only thing you will have to worry about is pilot less aircraft, seeing how the boxes don't mind as much as the PAX!!!
 
Great! My buddies in London love to point out the activities of the 'first time abroad' American tourists that pollute the city in the summer. It will sure further our national rep to drag hard core white trash over on 'peanut fares' on Southwest. Good luck getting the 1-2-3 rule at a layover hotel in the UK.

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This open skies deal is going to be the biggest change in the U.S. airline industry since deregulation. The LCC's in the U.S. and Europe will all jump in and it will be a slugfest with the established legacies. I'm not quite sure who will win, but all those profits from the Atlantic routes that the legacies are seeing now will likely be much lower in the next couple of years. I

Nah, the foreign airlines still lack the facilities at the major airports here in the States. They lack slots and gates. Sure, now they have a few, but there just isn't any room at most airports for huge expansion. They could try to fly to out of the way airports, like SWF (Stewart) for additional flights (Ryanair would probably do this, since they go to out of the way airports in Europe), but that would be about it. The legacies in the US still have the advantage of location. Look, we (DL) might add a whopping 3 flights to LHR. Expect the same from most European airlines, a few flights here and there to our major airports. The real losers are the airlines that used to fly into LHR exclusively. The European airlines may add new flights to cities with few European flights where there are open facilities, like STL.


I think Jetblue should add European flights, since they do have a good hub at JFK. But, what about those "poison pills" you guys have been telling us about the gate size at your new terminal at JFK???? Riiiiight. We knew that was crock all the time. I bet you will have a few widebody gates (the port authority wants to maximize revenue at JFK also), and you may start some flights with A330s I would bet to some European cities. But, you too would have to get slots at gates at those European airports, which may not be as easy as you would think. Reporters were "stunned" that we got 3 slots (potentially) at LHR.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
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I think it is only a matter of time before SWA or B6 start flying to Europe. It will take some time but it does make sense since the transatlantic flying seems to offer higher yields. I can see 787's in SWA colors and A330's or A350's in B6 colors in the next 5-10 years....
 

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