SWA to add up to 50 new destinations over the next few years as it continues to grow.

[redflyer65]

There's 10 in Mexico (not counting Mexico City) that have more than 1 million people.

Maybe another 5 in Canada? Add in Central and northern South America. It's a far cry for 50, but it's better than NO growth.

I think the model for international cities will be more in-line with other airlines. Feed them to our US gateways, then into our domestic system. Hell, that might even mean more flights domestically too...depending on the demand.

 

[redflyer65]

Lima is too far from HOU, so I'll give you five countable on your list. Now, wheres the other 45?

Could be possible from FLL though.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

There's 10 in Mexico (not counting Mexico City) that have more than 1 million people.

Maybe another 5 in Canada? Add in Central and northern South America. It's a far cry for 50, but it's better than NO growth.

I think the model for international cities will be more in-line with other airlines. Feed them to our US gateways, then into our domestic system. Hell, that might even mean more flights domestically too...depending on the demand.

Gateway? SWA speak for Hub Bubba?? =)

 

[redflyer65]

Hub? If that's what you want to call it Bill. We still have a TON of point to point domestically, but won't internationally. Hell, I just flew MKE-SEA completely full.

Adding Customs and Board Patrol to the mix WILL change the SW point to point service. Even you can understand that.

I think we will have defined entry points like....FLL, HOU, SAT, DEN, STL, PHX, BWI, and possibly LAS/LAX.

You wouldn't expect us to fly everyone from Mexico City to Omaha would you?

 

[Full of LUV]

"This is exactly the same tone of message delivered during the -800 talks regarding going to HI. "we need the -800 to go to HI, where else would we go with it?" (direct quote from chief of training). Next thing you know, the "rumor" morphed into must have the -800 to go to HI. And now we fly the -800 for the same rates, and don't go to HI."

Ouch.....

 

[Full of LUV]

Hawaii is a trash market. Its mostly rewards travel. Ask any major CEO, they will tell you that. Gordon Bethune said they had to fly there for their members of Onepass, but was not a money maker at all.
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Wait.... I thought due to SWA's superior "cost containment" they were able to make money where everyone else lost. What about $59 each way from FLL to MDW?

 

[248to2.8]

The thing that makes me wonder is the way it was said. They have the "Opportunity" to expand to 50 new destinations. Not that they are adding 50 new destinations. Just that something changed that will allow them to now go to 50 new cities. Meaning to me that they aren't committed to a single new city yet, hence no names announced.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Hub? If that's what you want to call it Bill. We still have a TON of point to point domestically, but won't internationally. Hell, I just flew MKE-SEA completely full.

Adding Customs and Board Patrol to the mix WILL change the SW point to point service. Even you can understand that.

I think we will have defined entry points like....FLL, HOU, SAT, DEN, STL, PHX, BWI, and possibly LAS/LAX.

You wouldn't expect us to fly everyone from Mexico City to Omaha would you?

Easy....Northwest used to fly MKE-SEA with a DC-10 so you arent blazin any trails Hoss!

 

[redflyer65]

Easy....Northwest used to fly MKE-SEA with a DC-10 so you arent blazin any trails Hoss!

I missed your emoti there Bill. The point being, they aren't anymore. And neither is DL. I could probably give you around 500 (at least) of 3500 flights/day that nobody else does. That's my point.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Red,

There's a reason why nobody flies them anymore. Your cost structure doesn't support making it any cheaper. Stop running to a decade ago thinking you guys are the innovators in this industry.

No more fuel hedges to buy you some leverage in the RASM game.

I love how the dripping arrogance like you are leaders of this game. I mean, hell, I oughta throttle back....you do fly to SJU now and you got the "heavy" 737.

 

[redflyer65]

Bill,

You should have stopped when you were close to even.

Have a guess at what our CASM is?

It's similar to Spirit and Allegiant, and definitely way below DL. So no, I'm not dripping with arrogance. Just trying to stick to the facts.

For some reason, you want to make some big deal of us being a 'hub'. But the facts are, we still aren't. We've gone over this before. We do a TON of point to point. And just like the MKE-SEA flight, they are mostly all full. I could make you a very, very long list of pure point to point. We overfly ATL all day long. We overfly our own base (hub if that makes you feel better) all day long as well. All of them. BWI, DEN, HOU, MDW, LAS, PHX, etc. So it's still a drastically different system, and I prefer the flying it entails.

Now let's turn to Delta. You guys are doing great, and I'm glad. I bought some Delta stock because I think things continue. You have good management, seem to be hitting on all cylinders mostly. Could I nit pick some things? Sure. (Same thing with SW) But why. That's the General's shtick.

Have a good weekend brother. Cheers.

 

[scoreboardII]

we do about 40 percent hub and spoke.

And we are now last in ontime.

 

[Hardcorr]

Are there anymore isolated West Texas towns you guys could go to from Dallas Love? How about Pecos or Ft Stockton? How about nonstop to Las Cruces, NM? Awesome! Go flat for those!



Bye Bye---General Lee

Hey, I'm from Las Cruces. That hurts General She

 

[Hardcorr]

I think that General Sheeee thing might stick. Bring it

 

[CorpCaptain]

I have no dog in the fight, but damn the SWA hate is strong in a couple of you.