Swa Pool

[Whataburger]

NetJets pays over $60k first year. FlexJet and Citation Shares also hire plenty of guys over 60, and they pay about $50k first year.

...and for the most part you can live where you want.

 

[huronip]

hey guys,

this is off the subject of the "hiring pool", but the question was asked. i was in the Oct newhire class, and our whole class of 20 got assigned OAK. i think the previous class of 20 got OAK as well. as of now, no one has been awarded a transfer out of OAK yet. i bet 75% of our class wants to leave OAK.

so, all new hires will most likely get OAK. many of us are hoping this size increase of LAS will help us out.
cheers,
NAV

I don't understand it either. I have been trying to bid back to OAK for the past two months because I would be able to hold a line instead of sitting reserve in PHX. If people are trying to bid out of OAK and others want in what keeps that from happening?

 

[JumpJetter]

in the last few months there have actually been NO vacancies in OAK. If you are near the bottom of the list, you can only leave OAK if (1) there is a positive vacancy bid for OAK (which for the last two months there has not been, it has actually shrunk due to Vegas) and (2) people junior to you are being added to the seniority list. Again, this has not happened either cause we have had very few new hire classes lately (in fact nobody brand new hitting the line in Jan and Feb I think).

JJ

 

[TonkaF16]

Stuck in Oak

I bid back to OAK in dec and have stagnated there for the Jan, feb, March Vacancy?

From the words above it looks like April will offer an opportunity to get back to Vegas.

OAK- Well oiled machine, crack town for crash pads, harder commute, better seniority and choice of lines/open time

Vegas-Historically smaller bid, and lines for open time, hotels are rough, better commute

Oh, the life of a junior FO

Any ideas on where the January class of new hires are doing their hard lines????

Thanks,

Tonka

in the last few months there have actually been NO vacancies in OAK. If you are near the bottom of the list, you can only leave OAK if (1) there is a positive vacancy bid for OAK (which for the last two months there has not been, it has actually shrunk due to Vegas) and (2) people junior to you are being added to the seniority list. Again, this has not happened either cause we have had very few new hire classes lately (in fact nobody brand new hitting the line in Jan and Feb I think).

JJ

 

[jke406]

I bid back to OAK in dec and have stagnated there for the Jan, feb, March Vacancy?

From the words above it looks like April will offer an opportunity to get back to Vegas.

OAK- Well oiled machine, crack town for crash pads, harder commute, better seniority and choice of lines/open time

Vegas-Historically smaller bid, and lines for open time, hotels are rough, better commute

Oh, the life of a junior FO

Any ideas on where the January class of new hires are doing their hard lines????

Thanks,

Tonka

This is the SWA Pool thread. I.E., for folks who are waiting for a job. I seriously doubt if there is any sympathy for your plight here, fella. Take it somewhere else.

 

[Mach 80]

>>>NetJets pays over $60k first year. FlexJet and Citation Shares also hire plenty of guys over 60, and they pay about $50k first year.<<<

Yep, certainly a choice, but if you've been flying part 121 airlines and the Boeing 737 for a long time, I'm sure it'd be easier, less stressful, less of a change, and more comfortable to stick with it plus be around your long time buds and airline routine. BUT-- my point is for an earlier poster -- many guys don't have the retirement $$$ and do need the work...it's not just a matter of "I want to fly for fun"...as if these guys could afford to buy their own $175,000 airplane or something, as he infers.

 

[PCL_128]

Yep, certainly a choice, but if you've been flying part 121 airlines and the Boeing 737 for a long time, I'm sure it'd be easier, less stressful, less of a change, and more comfortable to stick with it plus be around your long time buds and airline routine.

Excuse me while I weep for the poor geezers that can't make the transition to the fractionals and would rather hold up the careers of those that are coming behind them at SWA. [/sarcasm]

 

[humuakalaka]

I've been at SWA now for almost two years. I bid out of OAK for LAS for Feb. Saw the bid results for Feb, immediately changed my bid back to OAK, and now am stuck in LAS at least through the end of Mar. Anybody know what the chances are of going back to OAK sooner rather than later? I would be about 40% or so up the OAK FO list.

 

[sandyPAN]

Has anyone heard the official number of retreads that actually did re apply? And, any word of class dates.

 

[Mach 80]

PCL,

>>>Excuse me while I weep for the poor geezers that can't make the transition to the fractionals and would rather hold up the careers of those that are coming behind them at SWA.<<<

Excuse me while I weep for the unhired.

The age 60 guys could make the transition, but if they have been happy and it's easier to stay with what they have been doing, why change? Would you? It's smart and they have the right. As far as "holding up..." thanks for your dose of libarilism...Hillary and John Edwards would love you, but what about some of these guys who have little in retirement, don't they need and have the right to take care of themselves? The answer is yes.