SWA or DAL?

[stalker]

And scope must not have been around long enough to remember when the delta pilots were so pompous that they required that no other crews or guests could ride in the hotel shuttle with them! Just the facts.

 

[Cobraair75drvr]

As a former NWA pilot I had heard that rumour for years. Never witnessed it in person. Actually shared vans with them for years. My guess is that it was a contracted limo(IE: Golden touch in NYC) service trying to combine crews if it happened at all. If that was the case that would be understandable as Delta was paying for that van. Seriously doubt that would happen in a hotel van. Fwiw, for years when outed as a crew member in bars I always admitted to being Delta with a showtime of just under 8 hours. Now, when I am out drinking it is swa with a AM departure. Actually look the part as I saved my Fonzi jacket from NWA.

 

[tomgoodman]

As a former NWA pilot I had heard that rumour for years. Never witnessed it in person. Actually shared vans with them for years.

That's right -- in fact, we would round up other crewmembers to ride with us. Saved a lot on tips that way.

 

[Superunknown]

Is it still a requirement that the FA's stay in different hotels than the pilots at Delta? (not that it matters with all the battle-axes that work the cabin now-a-days anyway)

 

[Scope out RJ's]

And scope must not have been around long enough to remember when the delta pilots were so pompous that they required that no other crews or guests could ride in the hotel shuttle with them! Just the facts.

Facts huh???:laugh::laugh::laugh:

 

[flynvixen]

That's right -- in fact, we would round up other crewmembers to ride with us. Saved a lot on tips that way.

That's BS and you know it I have seen it in person and had many other crews say the same. In fact it has almost come to fist fights in the past with Delta professionals demanding that other people get off of the bus because in their words "this is our van" those are facts and dont try and BS us that you guys are nice fun loving, happy friendly crew members just looking for a ride to the hotel. It was not a limo thing I saw it on hotel vans.

Cheers vato's

 

[tomgoodman]

Is it still a requirement that the FA's stay in different hotels than the pilots at Delta?

That was never a requirement, and we usually stayed at the same hotel. A difference in layover duration sometimes meant that one group would stay near the airport and the others would go downtown.

 

[Kharma Police]

That's BS and you know it I have seen it in person and had many other crews say the same. In fact it has almost come to fist fights in the past with Delta professionals demanding that other people get off of the bus because in their words "this is our van" those are facts and dont try and BS us that you guys are nice fun loving, happy friendly crew members just looking for a ride to the hotel. It was not a limo thing I saw it on hotel vans.

Cheers vato's

I've never had a problem with Delta's crew members at both ASA and AirTran, they have waited for us on several occasions. Just a hunch, maybe your warm and sunny personalty had something to do with your experience.

 

[Full of LUV]

I've never had a problem with Delta's crew members at both ASA and AirTran, they have waited for us on several occasions. Just a hunch, maybe your warm and sunny personalty had something to do with your experience.

Pretty much what I was thinking.....

 

[Full of LUV]

Fwiw, for years when outed as a crew member in bars I always admitted to being Delta with a showtime of just under 8 hours. Now, when I am out drinking it is swa with a AM departure. Actually look the part as I saved my Fonzi jacket from NWA.

That's also much easier now that SWA is flying from the city airports........ very funny!

 

[General Lee]

And scope must not have been around long enough to remember when the delta pilots were so pompous that they required that no other crews or guests could ride in the hotel shuttle with them! Just the facts.

Been with Delta since '96, and I have NEVER seen that. I have always enjoyed riding in the van with SWA crews because most of their stews are younger than ours, and fun to talk to. The pilots, well, if you could get over the Fonzi jacket and Blue Angels talk, they were usually nice too. I never saw any DL Capt not want to share a van ride. Nope.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[flynvixen]

That was never a requirement, and we usually stayed at the same hotel. A difference in layover duration sometimes meant that one group would stay near the airport and the others would go downtown.

May not have been a requirement but you guys still did it routinely and dont say you dident I have seen it and flown with a bunch of guys from the commuters and other airlines that have also seen it.

You can have your own opinion but you cannot have your own facts it happened and still does and you know it.

The Delta professional have always been a pompous bunch, looking down their noses at other airline crews, with that hat wearing double breasted we are better than you smirk on their faces.

It burns them up that we make more money....allot more money than they do, so they walk around with their noses in the air and act like they own the world and industry.

Sucks to be them

Cheers Vato's

 

[Scope out RJ's]

May not have been a requirement but you guys still did it routinely and dont say you dident I have seen it and flown with a bunch of guys from the commuters and other airlines that have also seen it.

Well, sport, I dident do it, and have never seen it done.:laugh:

You can have your own opinion but you cannot have your own facts it happened and still does and you know it.

Facts eh?

The Delta professional have always been a pompous bunch, looking down their noses at other airline crews, with that hat wearing double breasted we are better than you smirk on their faces.

Not all crews flynvixen, just little fart eaters like yourself. Of course if Its nice to know that you still :crying: over it.

It burns them up that we make more money....allot more money than they do, so they walk around with their noses in the air and act like they own the world and industry.

You also paid for your job, which we didn't, and only temporarily make more money. Wait til the seniority integration when you stay an f/o forever. But the good news, you'll be pulling gear for some 3 year Air Tran pilot.:laugh:

Sucks to be them

Sucks worse to be you.

Cheers Vato's

AMF!

 

[flynvixen]

You also paid for your job, which we didn't, and only temporarily make more money. Wait til the seniority integration when you stay an f/o forever. But the good news, you'll be pulling gear for some 3 year Air Tran pilot.:laugh:


You professionals at Delta are paying for your job every day since you and the ALPA job killing machine almost burned your house down.

We have the type rating requirement as a $#@% screen to keep the rif raf out and is has worked very well over the years.

I have now doubt that I will not be pulling gear for any of the Clampett's

They will be in the RJ corral for as long as it takes to accept the SWAPA offer or be offed by Guadalupe holdings.

Keep on being you....... the Pro tools

Cheers Vato's

 

[Dan Roman]

You also paid for your job, which we didn't, and only temporarily make more money. Wait til the seniority integration when you stay an f/o forever. But the good news, you'll be pulling gear for some 3 year Air Tran pilot.:laugh:


You professionals at Delta are paying for your job every day since you and the ALPA job killing machine almost burned your house down.

We have the type rating requirement as a $#@% screen to keep the rif raf out and is has worked very well over the years.

I have now doubt that I will not be pulling gear for any of the Clampett's

They will be in the RJ corral for as long as it takes to accept the SWAPA offer or be offed by Guadalupe holdings.

Keep on being you....... the Pro tools

Cheers Vato's

You really do have a major inferiority complex or perhaps you are just on here trying to jerk some peoples chains. Every airline has a few arrogant jerks, however most pilots are good people no matter what they fly. I've seen good people from all walks of the aviation spectrum. There certainly isn't one that is better than any other.
You might want to stop watching so much Fox news clutching your framed picture of Gary Kelley, it will make you feel much better.

 

[Scope out RJ's]

You professionals at Delta are paying for your job every day since you and the ALPA job killing machine almost burned your house down.

At least it's a house, and not a trailer.

We have the type rating requirement as a $#@% screen to keep the rif raf out and is has worked very well over the years.

Except in your case that is. Good thing for you, living with mom and dad and having them pay for it helped.

I have now doubt that I will not be pulling gear for any of the Clampett's

I have no doubt that had spelling been a requirement you'd still be a mesa f/o.

They will be in the RJ corral for as long as it takes to accept the SWAPA offer or be offed by Guadalupe holdings.

The RJ guys who will be your captains, so you better tread carefully junior.:laugh:

Keep on being you....... the Pro tools

It beats being you................The :bawling: baby!

Cheers Vato's

AMF!

 

[Tripower455]

Been with Delta since '96, and I have NEVER seen that. I have always enjoyed riding in the van with SWA crews because most of their stews are younger than ours, and fun to talk to. The pilots, well, if you could get over the Fonzi jacket and Blue Angels talk, they were usually nice too. I never saw any DL Capt not want to share a van ride. Nope.


Bye Bye--General Lee

It was alive and well at least until the early '90's, when DAL started to go south and the furloughs started. Before that, they wouldn't ride with anyone else. After that, the FOs and FEs, almost to a man, asked if my commuter was hiring while sharing a van.

The best one I ever saw was in PDX, and not that long ago (10 years or so?). It was March-ish, cold and wet. The FO and I were sitting in the van, waiting for the FAs to do their money drop, when a DAL crew appeared. The Capt told us that WE had to get off the van, since their contract required separate accommodations. I laughed out loud, and offered that they SHARE the van with us (there was room for both crews), but that we were not getting off the van. As our FAs appeared, he was trying, in vain, to convince the driver to kick us off. We were all loaded up, and he was then trying to convince his crew to wait with him (for the van to go to the hotel and back). The rest of the crew took up our offer to share, and the guy waited about 40 minutes for the van, leaving an empty seat in the van.

 

[Ronnie75]

It was alive and well at least until the early '90's, when DAL started to go south and the furloughs started. Before that, they wouldn't ride with anyone else. After that, the FOs and FEs, almost to a man, asked if my commuter was hiring while sharing a van.

The best one I ever saw was in PDX, and not that long ago (10 years or so?). It was March-ish, cold and wet. The FO and I were sitting in the van, waiting for the FAs to do their money drop, when a DAL crew appeared. The Capt told us that WE had to get off the van, since their contract required separate accommodations. I laughed out loud, and offered that they SHARE the van with us (there was room for both crews), but that we were not getting off the van. As our FAs appeared, he was trying, in vain, to convince the driver to kick us off. We were all loaded up, and he was then trying to convince his crew to wait with him (for the van to go to the hotel and back). The rest of the crew took up our offer to share, and the guy waited about 40 minutes for the van, leaving an empty seat in the van.

Is this really true? I don't believe it.

 

[PapaWoody]

Is this really true? I don't believe it.

I flew with Tri back when I was an F/O, and we had a PDX overnight, if memory serves. Anyway, I distinctly remember him telling me this story back then, for what it's worth (i.e. he's not just making it up for this thread).

Cheers,
PapaWoody

 

[scoreboardII]

Is this really true? I don't believe it.

Happened to me in CMH about 2006ish, DAL pilot sitting on van saw us coming and tried to get the driver to leave, driver stayed put, loaded us up and as we got on the DAL pilot said "this was "his" contracted van". I said "Hello, good luck with that" and then the driver drove to the hotel, never saw the guy again.