SWA MDW Meltdown

[waveflyer]

We had the same problem on the AirTran side when Joe left and was replaced with Bob. Joe was a scumbag, unlike Herb, but he at least knew how to run and grow an airline. Bob was just a bean counter, and he knew nothing of operations, marketing, etc. Gary seems to be just a slightly smarter version of him, unfortunately. He speaks the propaganda quite well about "LUV" and such, but at heart, all he knows is numbers. That's fine for a CFO. Not so much for a CEO and a leader.

God if only swa ran just like air tran. Not just best practices, grow stronger - but you're calling for your old leaders back?? Really, you moron?

Excuse me. I critique Gary's leadership style. It's bland as a numbers guy. But remember a few things. First Plc, you fu<Kstick, Gk had every "numbers" excuse he could have ever needed to furlough in '09 and didn't and even had some senior swapa members and Wall Street pressuring him- he never got close to waivering then. What did your scumbag hero do?

We all place herb on a pedestal for power of personality. And me too. Wish I worked for him. He LED his people. I'll gladly follow him and sacrifice more than Gary has ever asked. But look at that exact quality. What are you asking for? - for the VAST MAJORITY of herb's tenure swa pilots were some of the lowest paid pilots in the majors- (stock options notwithstanding ) with much tougher schedules than we have-
For all of Gary's tenure we've been THE HIGHEST PAID IN CATEGORY, and often close to the highest paid pilots in the industry period. With great work rules and schedules.

I hate how the operation is running right now, and I give no excuse, but may want to think about some of that before you go asking for Joe to make his airline return.


Why do you LOVE working for such awful people Plc? I've asked that over and over.
Gulf Stream. Pinnacle. Air tran. And almost always at each company's lowest point. And never more upset than the thought of getting on the swapa contract. You're some level of sociopath, mixed with self loathing.

 

[waveflyer]

Besides, check it- I'm making another $2k this min 3day turned jacked up 4day. Doubled my $$
That ain't all bad.

 

[PCL_128]

I didn't ask for any of our old leaders back, you stupid f#ck. Learn how to read, and get Gary's dick out of your mouth.

 

[Crash Pad]

Wave, you just made a lightbulb turn on. I always thought PNCL was trying to fast track and missing the boat at every turn. I now realise that he is an ALPA guy. ALPA is most valuable to pilots under bad management. It all makes sense now. He has been searching for a trademark body of work to secure a spot in DC.

It explains the resume and the reason he has to resign now (which I still don't think he will do).

 

[PCL_128]

 

[Ty Webb]

Why do you LOVE working for such awful people Plc? I've asked that over and over.
Gulf Stream. Pinnacle. Air tran. And almost always at each company's lowest point. And never more upset than the thought of getting on the swapa contract. You're some level of sociopath, mixed with self loathing.

Breaking News . . . "Mother Theresa no longer running airlines".

You want to start blaming guys for working at Pinnacle and AirTran? Wow. Maybe you ought to blame him for the year he was born, or learned to fly.

Sounds sort of like blaming the victim to me.

:laugh:

 

[Dan Roman]

Breaking News . . . "Mother Theresa no longer running airlines".

You want to start blaming guys for working at Pinnacle and AirTran? Wow. Maybe you ought to blame him for the year he was born, or learned to fly.

Sounds sort of like blaming the victim to me.

:laugh:

We all live in glass houses, all of us have taken concessions at one time or another.....SWA was built on pilots working longer hours for lower pay and foregoing a retirement plan.

 

[Daddy]

Still have worst retirement "plan" of the majors

 

[waverunner]

What the hell is your problem waveflyer? Why jump pcl 128's $hit? He was just pointing out the past at the tran and how that may translate to the MAJOR frickin issues we have going on here. After experiencing the unbelievable meltdown first hand, I have never felt so uneasy about our future here. Clearly, upper management is to blame for all of this.

 

[PCL_128]

Waveflyer is just the quintessential management kiss-ass. I wouldn't pay too much attention to him.