Actually, you're mistaken. SWAPA did not want the lance captain program eliminated, and they most certainly did not "tout" lance restrictions as a "gain" in the last contract. What happened was that they bargained to keep the program (as the pilots wanted), while the company wanted it gone immediately and in its entirety. What we got was a compromise, which reportedly was as far as the company would go. And I assume that we got a little something, for giving the company a partial gain that they wanted. The fact is, that if the union wanted the program gone, it would have been gone, since the company has wanted it gone for a long, long time.
Maybe I am mistaken about it being touted as a SWApA "gain", (I think I still have the SWAPA GAINS! SWApAganda pamphlet around somewhere. It was so unbelievable, that I think I kept it)but CK and Brink were both vocal opponents of the LC and ELITT programs as long as I have been here, so forgive me if I mistook the the LC issue as one of the many SWApA "gains" in the current CBA. It's kind of hard to tell the difference when most of the "gains" weren't
And I realize you're one of those guys who hates the union, for whatever reason you have (did you run for office and get beaten or something?).
I don't hate the union. I hate the constant concessions SWApA gives to the company, on every single issue. It's been going on as long as I've been here. We rarely, if ever, get anything for our efforts. We'll see if this BOD has the nuts to reject the turd that's surely in the pipeline.
Oh, and I was beaten by somewhere around 13 votes in the first one, and 9 in the runoff, IIRC. Not sure what difference that makes. Good thing the other guy won, and quit before he was recalled!
I also realize that no matter who's in power, and no matter what they do or accomplish, you'll still bitch about it. And that nothing they do will ever be considered good, or even adequate, in your eyes. There's a few guys like that on this and other boards.
Sorry, but damn near every BOD we've had in my tenure here has given away the store on just about every issue placed before them.
This job sucks more today than it did 10 years ago, and much of that suckiness is directly attributable to SWApA's constant capitulation to management. What, 16 side letters, many during "negotiations", and nothing, whatsoever (except more work for less pay and far worse QOL) to show for them.
Now, they're not even denying that we're giving away codeshare, better retirement, retro and other stuff, all for sub cola "raises".
We've got a lot of great guys on the BOD right now. I hope that they have the collective sack to flush the turd that is surely being churned up by the Toms.
But perhaps you'd be taken a little more seriously, if you didn't do such childish things as referring to the union as "SWApA" instead of SWAPA. When moderates see posts containing obvious smartass exaggerations like yours, and the union referred to as "SWApA" or "SNAPA," instead of by its real name, they realize that they're reading the thoughts of an extremist anti-anything-SWAPA guy, and they can safely be ignored.
Yup, "safely ignored". If the pilot group had listened to the "extremists", instead of Club 19 for the last decade or so, we'd not be having this discussion.
You might want to consider that. Assuming, of course, that you want to be taken seriously, that is.
Bubba
Personally, I don't GAS. You guys are going to do the same thing you always do.: Accept and hard sell another substandard TA like we took the company to the cleaners, when, in fact, the opposite will be the case.
Only SWApA could mess this up in "this environment".
Posts like yours are a sure sign that another concessionary TA is imminent.
Seriously, I would LOVE to be wrong, just once, and unlike former SWApA types, would freely admit it. If it ever happens.
