SWA, JB, Fedex Averages

[skyhogg]

To Southwest, Jetblue, and Fedex guys who may have a guess on this. Any idea as to what the average competetive times are looking like these days?

Also, does anyone know how likely it is to be considered if you're just shy of having completed a college degree?

thx much

 

[Bill Nelson]

Also, does anyone know how likely it is to be considered if you're just shy of having completed a college degree?

About as likely as a guy with 0 hours of college under his belt. You either have a degree or you don't.

 

[jetblue320]

JB Averages

To Southwest, Jetblue, and Fedex guys who may have a guess on this. Any idea as to what the average competetive times are looking like these days?

Also, does anyone know how likely it is to be considered if you're just shy of having completed a college degree?

thx much

It's late so I will refer you to our web site for the answer. Check www.jetblue.com and click on Work Here, then Flight Operations, Pilots. It has some info on the times and experience levels of folks getting interviews and hired. It also states (I believe) that a college degree is preferred but not required. But like Bill Nelson said above, one credit short of a degree is as good as none.

Take Care and Good Luck

 

[Hose A. Jiminez]

Being just shy of a degree is probably worse than having no credit at all.

Stopping just short of the finish line shows inability to follow through and a proclivity for being distracted.

 

[English]

Being just shy of a degree is probably worse than having no credit at all.

Stopping just short of the finish line shows inability to follow through and a proclivity for being distracted.

I disagree. What if the person is taking 18 units while employed full-time in order to finish the degree? Do you still have the same picture of this applicant?

 

[Dennis Miller]

Stopping just short of the finish line shows inability to follow through and a proclivity for being distracted.

Yea, just ask Bill Gates.

 

[Skygod]

Add losers David Neeleman and Richard Branson to the list.

Maybe it's just me, but I think American colleges focus too much on certification rather than education.



"The object of education is to prepare the student to educate themselves throughout their lives."

— R. M. Hutchins

 

[Bill Nelson]

Add losers David Neeleman and Richard Branson to the list.

OK, but they were already on my list of losers!

They maybe the exception to the rules, but someone who starts school and can't finish is no better than the fella that never started from an HR perspective.

 

[Guam360]

Thank you English, skygod and dennis miller.

I have not finished a university degree, although i spent almost 7years in the Navy, working on nuke subs and picking up unexploded ordanance.

I did get my AS before delta closed our MCO base, since then i have not been able finish the rest. I went at night and online when i could manage the time.

short of the finish line...inability to follow through, being distracted, do my job in the navy, (pull dead bodies from a downed aircraft), SSN for submarines doesn't mean Nuclear Submarine, it means, Saturday, Sundays, and Nights. look at my life and watch my parents and grand parents die in front of me.

yea, sounds extreme, degree, I would be the same skilled and knowlegdable pilot that I am today with or without. Making the same decisions, probably better than some average college grad.

 

[Bill Nelson]

I have not finished a university degree, although i spent almost 7years in the Navy, working on nuke subs and picking up unexploded ordanance

Well there you have it folk! That certainly makes you a better pilot candidate. You never know when you are going to have to work on nuke subs and picking up unexploded ordanance while working for a major airline.

I'm not saying that I don't appreciate your service to our great country, I do, but military is no substitute for a degree from a HR or company perspective.

 

[Guam360]

bill nelson , you are a piece of sh!t

 

[hoya saxa]

bill nelson , you are a piece of sh!t

Could you please retract either this statement or the one about your having served in the Navy? Either way, your attitude is embarassing to the rest of the Navy folks here who DO value an education over the excuses why you just couldn't finish... Wait, I'm sorry, you must be the only one with a tough, complicated job and a personal life. That'll go over big in any HR department.

 

[BHS]

Guam360 and Skyhogg, if you have the type then your chances are pretty good. I am in the same boat but different pipeline. It's the type that will get you through the door the rest follows. Good luck!

 

[Bill Nelson]

bill nelson , you are a piece of sh!t

Good luck to you fella. The number one question that HR folks ask is, "Do you like Willy?" I think the percentages are in the low zeros of people getting hired who say no. (Atleast they ought to be)

BTW, I am military and have a degree. You are the disgrace, not the rest of us who worked hard to be where we are. Good day enlistee.

 

[RogerMOSA]

Hey Billy-

"BTW, I am military and have a degree. You are the disgrace, not the rest of us who worked hard to be where we are. Good day enlistee. "

Nice officer-like qualities. I'm quite sure a HR rep will never hire you when you show how you view subordinates. "Good day enlistee....insert F/A, Skycap, Gate-agent." Your degree will not overcome that attitude.

oh ....and BTW, I am military and have a degree too. I have respect for my troops and especially those who have furthered themselves with higher education. Walk a mile Billy, and especially at the enlisted man's paygrade.

RM.

 

[Dennis Miller]

You never know when you are going to have to work on nuke subs and picking up unexploded ordanance while working for a major airline.

I don't think too many Major Airlines fly B-52's either so I presume that would leave you both with equal qualifications in your twisted world of qualifications. I can read through your fake "Military" resume like used Neutrogena. B52, F-22 and the SR-71? You left off the Space shuttle and Air Force One. You are about as Military as Martin Sheen. Yea, he played Robert E. Lee and Eddie Slovik.

 

[Bill Nelson]

I was enlisted, got a degree, went to OCS, and progressed. So do lots of people. The rest try and grow their mustaches out past their lips and try to justify it because they "have a lot going on in their lives."

Excuses are for losers. Get you degree and don't question my ability to lead. I am very sympethetic until you start whinning about your tough luck.

There is no excuse for ambition. Period.

 

[rstev1955]

Just curious Bill...where and when did you fly the F-22 and where and when did you fly the SR-71?

 

[JerkyBoy]

Nice Sarcasm

You don't know what you are talking about and are just being a tool. Must be the Philosophy 101 class you aced back at Tough-Guy U that taught you how to disregard other peoples accomplishments completely.

While I am sure your degree is incredibly valuable and something that you draw on from every sortie - "gee.... thank God I have a college degree otherwise I might not have made it through that...." I am relatively confident employers are smart enough to realize people have lots of different ways to educate themselves and can see as much by the resumes they evaluate.

It is not all black and white. I have a masters degree. BIG deal. It is not what defines me as a pilot. It is not what gets me a job at SWA. It is experience and the person behind the experience.

Get over yourself hero.

 

[SWA/FO]

Just apply and see what happens...enough with this military b.s., next we will hear about all the former CFIs start b1itching about all of our couch time. (Believe me I have the blue, brown and white color couch type rating.)

I have furnished a timeline to follow, below:

1) apply to your airline of choice

2) finish your degree if YOU want to.

3) interview

4) go be an airline pilot or join the "guard"

5) drink at the OC or 1-2-3....

6) done