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They are assuming a "yes" vote from both sides. These pilots are to help out with the transition training. Still, very good news to SWA and AAI pilots. There will be more for hired for summer time. And, then even more hired late in 2012 for retirements coming up in a little more than a year.
Bake
I can see a scenario here where a November 2011 new-hire SW FO who is not even on property yet will hit year 2 FO pay in november 2012 and be making more than AT FO's on the 717 (not by choice) who are in year 3 and 4 for the next 2+ years. The new-hire will make many thousands of dollars more than the more senior AT (even some who have crossed the fence to SW) pilot before they are on the same rates in 2015. In some cases even SW new-hires in 2012 and 2013 will enjoy this pay advantage for some period of time. Many 717 FO's wll be less valued employees than even the SW "unborn." I wonder if this scenario was considered.
Anyway, it is what it is but this could make some folks feel their contributions to our company (and their families by extension) are less valued than that of others. In any case, I'll accept it and be a good sport about it because it can't be changed and I have no control over it, I just wanted to point it out. Congratulations to all the SW new-hires, I look forward to working with you and I look forward to 2015 when I can be a full member of the team too.
Not good for a trapped 717 guy. Dear ALPA I hate you!
Here we go again..... HATE YOUR OWN MEC WHO DIDN'T PUT IT OUT FOR A VOTE.
Hey crash u and I are on the same page. Im just stick of all the kill it guys from aip1. That are now crying they don't get the Same pay on the 717. Ready to move on.
Look for wage concessions at the next section six- SWAPA will do as their told, just like you were.
Are you Stupid or something? 717 guys don't Start going over till mid-2013 and finish going over late 2014 and that is an IF, because SWA is allowed to change that time line.Ok, 717 guys don't go over Untill to 2013. So how does that hurt 717 guy? You should pissed at magnificent 7, who brought all this sh!t on us.
New hire at SWA gets a 737 slot. In 2014 he is making 101ish an hour. In 2014 our 717 guys will make a lot less. Get it? In 2015 it's all under the bridge.
I'm mad at the mag seven and all our pilots egging them on. You know the guys who "thought it would go straight to mediation" or RM spewing BS until he hit Dallas then realized he wasn't that smart.
It would almost be worth a NO to see those guys hit the street. The marriages fail, kids yanked from private school, the reality of the job market... Excited for it to be over.
Are you Stupid or something? 717 guys don't Start going over till mid-2013 and finish going over late 2014 and that is an IF, because SWA is allowed to change that time line.
And then the kicker all 717 guys make AAI pay until 2015. Thats 4 years on B scale pay. Thanks GK! I love your version of the "Golden Rule".
I think Gary offered you a lot more the first time. Who do you have to thank for losing that?
Doesn't this just "grease the skids" a bit more for the yes vote? Good news and growth always make it easier to swallow.
You are obsessed w/ your hate towards SWA. Some counseling might help.
You never did say who you fly for, Are you to embarrassed to say?
I am sure pay cuts are around the corner, as our new markets to the Caribbean, Hawaii, and elsewhere will be lose leaders![]()
Again, who do you fly for?
Sorry, new here to this cat fight, with little information. But will the new hires displace the AT 717 guys and recieve their pay or are those guys (AT 717) seat locked until 2013??