SWA F/As Approve New Contract

[lowlycfi]

New TA voted in today. 89% voted yes.

 

[FlyinGuy]

So.......

 

[Floyd94]

So what are the details??

 

[lowlycfi]

From what I've heard, 3% raise, 100% retro pay back to amendable date, no change to the duty day (10-1/2 hours max), some other QOL stuff. Not bad given it was negotiated in a terrible year for the industry.

Really makes me sorry I left, since I'd be making almost $53/trip now.

 

[Mach92]

They gave up a lot, it was a P O S

Score for Gary

 

[labbats]

$53 an hour for Flight Attendants? You've got to be kidding me. So if every regional pilot skipped flight school and had showed up to Southwest FA school instead they would double their pay?! Oh, and no student loans.

Not a bad jump from the Gap to $53 an hour. Do you have any felonies? No. Do you have a high school diploma. Yes. Ok, you're hired.

 

[vixin]

Mach 92 they didnt give up anything. Where did you get that BS? Labbats its $53 per trip or around $60 per hour.

 

[LandGreen]

Mach 92 they didnt give up anything. Where did you get that BS? Labbats its $53 per trip or around $60 per hour.

what year FA is that? is that top end...and if so what is top end, 12 or 15 years? how many trips/or hours a month is normal?

 

[lowlycfi]

Top out is in year 12. When I left I was flying about 4 three day trips a month and usually crediting over 100 trips per month. That worked out to 19 or so days off per month. I was about number 400 out of 1000 in HOU.

 

[labbats]

Top out is in year 12. When I left I was flying about 4 three day trips a month and usually crediting over 100 trips per month. That worked out to 19 or so days off per month. I was about number 400 out of 1000 in HOU.

And you left that to become a pilot?! Unless you married a Southwest pilot and can handle the $ situation, that's an odd move.

 

[lowlycfi]

And you left that to become a pilot?! Unless you married a Southwest pilot and can handle the $ situation, that's an odd move.

Married yes, but not to a pilot and yes she has a good job. Odd move, maybe so if I never make more than I did as a F/A. FWIW, there are quite a few stews who have made the move to being a pilot, so I guess it's not that odd. I guess we'll have to see where my career ends up.

I had always planned on being a pilot even before I went to work as a F/A. I only planned on doing the job for about 5 years while I finished college. Before I knew it it had been 12.

 

[labbats]

It's a leap of faith we all take. Best of luck to you.

 

[lowlycfi]

Thanks.

 

[motch]

Married yes, but not to a pilot and yes she has a good job. Odd move, maybe so if I never make more than I did as a F/A. FWIW, there are quite a few stews who have made the move to being a pilot, so I guess it's not that odd. I guess we'll have to see where my career ends up.

I had always planned on being a pilot even before I went to work as a F/A. I only planned on doing the job for about 5 years while I finished college. Before I knew it it had been 12.

The problem is we do not have more people like you in this industry!
Someone who became a pilot because..
He always wanted to be a pilot! Took a job most of us wouldn't and followed a dream.

Too many people on FI, and in the air are here because they thought it was a fun job with great pay and lots of time off.
If more pilots were here because of their love of aviation and flying our industry would turn around!

Congrats LowlyCFI and welcome!

Always
Motch

 

[murano]

If more pilots were here because of their love of aviation and flying our industry would turn around!

I disagree with that statement. There are too many that love flying so much that they would do it for any price. That's why we are in the situation we are in right now. Pilots need to realize that this is BUSINESS. You are flying to earn a living and provide for your family. If you love flying so much and want to keep doing it, stop voting yes on every concessionary contract pushed down your throat and go rent a Cessna 172 to fly around.

 

[motch]

murano..
We all did that in one way or another when we started. Dying to get an hour here or there.. Killing to get an hour of multi time!

But at some point, we were mentored by someone and taught that we are worth X$. Going to college and earning a degree should have also taught us something about supply and demand, how management works and thinks, and to strive for an honest wage for honest work done.

It's an ALPA-N problem as much as an ALPA-Local problem.. or whatever other Union you work for. We need to educate the young about what THEY are worth and what THIS INDUSTRY expects from them.
Flying a plane should be more than a job, it should be a career.

Motch

 

[Fly-By-Cable]

I disagree with that statement. There are too many that love flying so much that they would do it for any price. That's why we are in the situation we are in right now. Pilots need to realize that this is BUSINESS. You are flying to earn a living and provide for your family. If you love flying so much and want to keep doing it, stop voting yes on every concessionary contract pushed down your throat and go rent a Cessna 172 to fly around.

AMEN brother