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He's trying to equate us not going to Hawaii with some kind of failure. Yet will have another profitable quarter followed by another 41+ years of profits, with no bankruptcy.

Gary's initiatives are hitting on all cylinders with a few to follow. Full cross country 800s. Six more seats on full 700s. Beginning to link systems with AAI. Getting ready to announce near international. Completing a new reservation system. Hawaii and Alaska to follow later.


Setting up and not finishing an ETOPS program is not a failure? How about a waste of time? How about not having a reservation system that can handle INTL flights? Huh? Who didn't figure that out prior to the merger? Was that a failure? Who botched that? How about alienating most of your AT brothers by having a 717 bid AND THEN selling them to another airline? Why have the bid in the first place? If it was contingent on DL and the DL contract allowing the 717s, why not wait for a bid until afterwards? That may not be a failure overall, but rather a huge mess.

Gary's initiatives started with deferring 30 738s. That doesn't mean it is hitting on all cylinders. Then you actually start fare sales, something that you never used to do. Mahalo Bra!


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
Setting up and not finishing an ETOPS program is not a failure? How about a waste of time? How about not having a reservation system that can handle INTL flights? Huh? Who didn't figure that out prior to the merger? Was that a failure? Who botched that? How about alienating most of your AT brothers by having a 717 bid AND THEN selling them to another airline? Why have the bid in the first place? If it was contingent on DL and the DL contract allowing the 717s, why not wait for a bid until afterwards? That may not be a failure overall, but rather a huge mess.

Gary's initiatives started with deferring 30 738s. That doesn't mean it is hitting on all cylinders. Then you actually start fare sales, something that you never used to do. Mahalo Bra!


Bye Bye---General Lee

General,

The bottom line is the bottom line. We are doing great, and Gary is making sure that continues....for all, including the AAI guys. The deferred planes are going to turn into 800 Max's, but you knew that right? Gary is looking ahead to better fuel economy. Delta is looking ahead to operating a 1960 model DC-9 another few years along with 10 total fleet types. We'll have ONE type with NO codeshare. It's apples and oranges brother.

ETOPS is still ongoing, whether you want to believe it or not. Check some of our 800 gear doors....we have at least 20 that say ETOPS. We aren't buying them that way to just impress the rampers, so get over it.

Oh, and we haven't had to use bankruptcy to get there. But you knew that too!
 
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From the Sudan (For the General)..


Slam Alikum

Sounds like you really don't know where we go. I do though know where you go, and that would be LBB, MAF, and AMA (notice not HNL).


See ya Bra!


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
General,

The bottom line is the bottom line. We are doing great, and Gary is making sure that continues....for all, including the AAI guys. The deferred planes are going to turn into 800 Max's, but you knew that right? Gary is looking ahead to better fuel economy. Delta is looking ahead to operating a 1960 model DC-9 another few years along with 10 total fleet types. We'll have ONE type with NO codeshare. It's apples and oranges brother.

ETOPS is still ongoing, whether you want to believe it or not. Check some of our 800 gear doors....we have at least 20 that say ETOPS. We aren't buying them that way to just impress the rampers, so get over it.

Oh, and we haven't had to use bankruptcy to get there. But you knew that too!


Apples to oranges Bra. Your business is successful wih one plane type and 25 min turns. I didn't say it wasn't. But, the ETOPS thing isn't in the cards for you now, and it may take awhile. You also have internal issues (AT guys), and higher gas bills that necessitate raising fares. My airline has 10 fleet types or whatever because it needs different planes on different routes, all over the World. It also makes 4 times the revenue, twice the profits, and has a refinery that will give an advantage. Plus, there are a heck of a lot more retirements coming up, which is good for pilots.

You can't really compare us, bra.


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
Apples to oranges Bra. Your business is successful wih one plane type and 25 min turns. I didn't say it wasn't. But, the ETOPS thing isn't in the cards for you now, and it may take awhile. You also have internal issues (AT guys), and higher gas bills that necessitate raising fares. My airline has 10 fleet types or whatever because it needs different planes on different routes, all over the World. It also makes 4 times the revenue, twice the profits, and has a refinery that will give an advantage. Plus, there are a heck of a lot more retirements coming up, which is good for pilots.

You can't really compare us, bra.


Bye Bye---General Lee

I love that you bring up the refinery. That's going to turn out bad for you guys. 10 fleets types is insane, but enjoy that drag on the bottom line...along with the six day trips. Have fun in the Sudan, haha.

I find it funny that your sooo concerned about our ETOPS program and aircraft (that are already on line). We appreciate it!
 
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Apples to oranges Bra. Your business is successful wih one plane type and 25 min turns. I didn't say it wasn't. But, the ETOPS thing isn't in the cards for you now, and it may take awhile. You also have internal issues (AT guys), and higher gas bills that necessitate raising fares. My airline has 10 fleet types or whatever because it needs different planes on different routes, all over the World. It also makes 4 times the revenue, twice the profits, and has a refinery that will give an advantage. Plus, there are a heck of a lot more retirements coming up, which is good for pilots.

You can't really compare us, bra.


Bye Bye---General Lee


Speaking of comparing, how is it that you GL, a supposed General, allowed Secret Squirrel to co-opt your avatar? What goes on here? If you were REALLY a general, I suspect you'd have the squirrel, who can't be any higher than a private, court-martialed for theft. Or at the very least, imitating and making fun of you.

Bubba
 
General
You keep referring to the word Bra... Isn't that an article of clothing you wear, i mean a woman. Anyone who knows anything about Hawaii knows its spelled Brah!!!
You can have HI Delta, Alaska and Latin America will make more $$$$.
 
Speaking of comparing, how is it that you GL, a supposed General, allowed Secret Squirrel to co-opt your avatar? What goes on here? If you were REALLY a general, I suspect you'd have the squirrel, who can't be any higher than a private, court-martialed for theft. Or at the very least, imitating and making fun of you.

Bubba

I once had a "General Lee" painted monster truck as my avatar, but it took up 3/4 of the page. I thought it was great, but it had to go.

As far as someone imitating me or making fun of me (?), I just don't care. It doesn't affect me at all.


Bye Bye---General Lee
 

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