Swa - etops certification

[igneousy2]

A SWA Capt in ATL told me it is on indefinite hold. He stated "we were too late to the Hawaii game anyway." Then he said because of their lack of a required reservation system(?), SWA wouldn't be flying any INTL routes until at least 2015. The current INTL routes would be flown by Airtran, since they have what is needed, supposedly.


Bye Bye---General Lee

The reservation system is a seperate issue.

ETOPS requires much closer part tracking than SWA's system currently allows which is what is holding up the process...at least that was what my super-model girlfriend's agent told me, he's a SWA frequent flyer so he shoud know.


Later

 

[General Lee]

The reservation system is a seperate issue.

ETOPS requires much closer part tracking than SWA's system currently allows which is what is holding up the process...at least that was what my super-model girlfriend's agent told me, he's a SWA frequent flyer so he shoud know.


Later

You're still way too late to the Hawaii game. When you are ready, it will be even tougher. But, good luck anyway, bra! Mahalo.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Whataburger]

You're still way too late to the Hawaii game. When you are ready, it will be even tougher. But, good luck anyway, bra! Mahalo.


Bye Bye---General Lee

"Mahalo?" LOL! Thank you for what?


Do you have your French, and African, and Polynesian, and Hawaiian mixed up again General Queso?

Azul!

 

[redflyer65]

He's trying to equate us not going to Hawaii with some kind of failure. Yet will have another profitable quarter followed by another 41+ years of profits, with no bankruptcy.

Gary's initiatives are hitting on all cylinders with a few to follow. Full cross country 800s. Six more seats on full 700s. Beginning to link systems with AAI. Getting ready to announce near international. Completing a new reservation system. Hawaii and Alaska to follow later.

 

[General Lee]

"Mahalo?" LOL! Thank you for what?


Do you have your French, and African, and Polynesian, and Hawaiian mixed up again General Queso?

Azul!

Mahalo is Thank you in Hawaiian, something you won't hear from pax for years it seems. Hey, it's good to fold the cards if the boss thinks he doesn't have a good hand. By the time you are ready though, there will probably be 3 total legacies who are a lot financially stronger, AK will have a huge portion of the Hawaiian market, and Allegiant will be all over the smaller market to Hawaii flights. You may have missed the boat, bra!


You know I'm just jokin, right bra? Jambo!



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[General Lee]

He's trying to equate us not going to Hawaii with some kind of failure. Yet will have another profitable quarter followed by another 41+ years of profits, with no bankruptcy.

Gary's initiatives are hitting on all cylinders with a few to follow. Full cross country 800s. Six more seats on full 700s. Beginning to link systems with AAI. Getting ready to announce near international. Completing a new reservation system. Hawaii and Alaska to follow later.

Setting up and not finishing an ETOPS program is not a failure? How about a waste of time? How about not having a reservation system that can handle INTL flights? Huh? Who didn't figure that out prior to the merger? Was that a failure? Who botched that? How about alienating most of your AT brothers by having a 717 bid AND THEN selling them to another airline? Why have the bid in the first place? If it was contingent on DL and the DL contract allowing the 717s, why not wait for a bid until afterwards? That may not be a failure overall, but rather a huge mess.

Gary's initiatives started with deferring 30 738s. That doesn't mean it is hitting on all cylinders. Then you actually start fare sales, something that you never used to do. Mahalo Bra!


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[redflyer65]

From the Sudan (For the General)..


Slam Alikum

 

[redflyer65]

Setting up and not finishing an ETOPS program is not a failure? How about a waste of time? How about not having a reservation system that can handle INTL flights? Huh? Who didn't figure that out prior to the merger? Was that a failure? Who botched that? How about alienating most of your AT brothers by having a 717 bid AND THEN selling them to another airline? Why have the bid in the first place? If it was contingent on DL and the DL contract allowing the 717s, why not wait for a bid until afterwards? That may not be a failure overall, but rather a huge mess.

Gary's initiatives started with deferring 30 738s. That doesn't mean it is hitting on all cylinders. Then you actually start fare sales, something that you never used to do. Mahalo Bra!


Bye Bye---General Lee

General,

The bottom line is the bottom line. We are doing great, and Gary is making sure that continues....for all, including the AAI guys. The deferred planes are going to turn into 800 Max's, but you knew that right? Gary is looking ahead to better fuel economy. Delta is looking ahead to operating a 1960 model DC-9 another few years along with 10 total fleet types. We'll have ONE type with NO codeshare. It's apples and oranges brother.

ETOPS is still ongoing, whether you want to believe it or not. Check some of our 800 gear doors....we have at least 20 that say ETOPS. We aren't buying them that way to just impress the rampers, so get over it.

Oh, and we haven't had to use bankruptcy to get there. But you knew that too!

 

[General Lee]

From the Sudan (For the General)..


Slam Alikum

Sounds like you really don't know where we go. I do though know where you go, and that would be LBB, MAF, and AMA (notice not HNL).


See ya Bra!


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[redflyer65]

Sounds like you really don't know where we go. I do though know where you go, and that would be LBB, MAF, and AMA (notice not HNL).


See ya Bra!


Bye Bye---General Lee

I love going to those places Gen. We make money there, YOU DON'T.

Try again.

 

[General Lee]

General,

The bottom line is the bottom line. We are doing great, and Gary is making sure that continues....for all, including the AAI guys. The deferred planes are going to turn into 800 Max's, but you knew that right? Gary is looking ahead to better fuel economy. Delta is looking ahead to operating a 1960 model DC-9 another few years along with 10 total fleet types. We'll have ONE type with NO codeshare. It's apples and oranges brother.

ETOPS is still ongoing, whether you want to believe it or not. Check some of our 800 gear doors....we have at least 20 that say ETOPS. We aren't buying them that way to just impress the rampers, so get over it.

Oh, and we haven't had to use bankruptcy to get there. But you knew that too!

Apples to oranges Bra. Your business is successful wih one plane type and 25 min turns. I didn't say it wasn't. But, the ETOPS thing isn't in the cards for you now, and it may take awhile. You also have internal issues (AT guys), and higher gas bills that necessitate raising fares. My airline has 10 fleet types or whatever because it needs different planes on different routes, all over the World. It also makes 4 times the revenue, twice the profits, and has a refinery that will give an advantage. Plus, there are a heck of a lot more retirements coming up, which is good for pilots.

You can't really compare us, bra.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[redflyer65]

Apples to oranges Bra. Your business is successful wih one plane type and 25 min turns. I didn't say it wasn't. But, the ETOPS thing isn't in the cards for you now, and it may take awhile. You also have internal issues (AT guys), and higher gas bills that necessitate raising fares. My airline has 10 fleet types or whatever because it needs different planes on different routes, all over the World. It also makes 4 times the revenue, twice the profits, and has a refinery that will give an advantage. Plus, there are a heck of a lot more retirements coming up, which is good for pilots.

You can't really compare us, bra.


Bye Bye---General Lee

I love that you bring up the refinery. That's going to turn out bad for you guys. 10 fleets types is insane, but enjoy that drag on the bottom line...along with the six day trips. Have fun in the Sudan, haha.

I find it funny that your sooo concerned about our ETOPS program and aircraft (that are already on line). We appreciate it!

 

[SWA Bubba]

Apples to oranges Bra. Your business is successful wih one plane type and 25 min turns. I didn't say it wasn't. But, the ETOPS thing isn't in the cards for you now, and it may take awhile. You also have internal issues (AT guys), and higher gas bills that necessitate raising fares. My airline has 10 fleet types or whatever because it needs different planes on different routes, all over the World. It also makes 4 times the revenue, twice the profits, and has a refinery that will give an advantage. Plus, there are a heck of a lot more retirements coming up, which is good for pilots.

You can't really compare us, bra.


Bye Bye---General Lee

Speaking of comparing, how is it that you GL, a supposed General, allowed Secret Squirrel to co-opt your avatar? What goes on here? If you were REALLY a general, I suspect you'd have the squirrel, who can't be any higher than a private, court-martialed for theft. Or at the very least, imitating and making fun of you.

Bubba

 

[HighSpeedClimb]

General
You keep referring to the word Bra... Isn't that an article of clothing you wear, i mean a woman. Anyone who knows anything about Hawaii knows its spelled Brah!!!
You can have HI Delta, Alaska and Latin America will make more $$$$.

 

[General Lee]

Speaking of comparing, how is it that you GL, a supposed General, allowed Secret Squirrel to co-opt your avatar? What goes on here? If you were REALLY a general, I suspect you'd have the squirrel, who can't be any higher than a private, court-martialed for theft. Or at the very least, imitating and making fun of you.

Bubba

I once had a "General Lee" painted monster truck as my avatar, but it took up 3/4 of the page. I thought it was great, but it had to go.

As far as someone imitating me or making fun of me (?), I just don't care. It doesn't affect me at all.


Bye Bye---General Lee