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SWA bans "Non-TSO" headsets. QC2?

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elcid

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I just read the latest read before fly dated 1FEB07. It states that as of 01 March, SWA will not allow "Non-TSO" headsets. They cite possible warranty issues with our avionics providers and possible liabilities in FAA inspection or investigations. Sounds like they're talking about the QC2 headsets with the U-Fly mike?
 
yes, visit Radio Shack.
 
Please elaborate on the "visit radio shack". What do we need to buy?
 
No, the Bose X is not TSO'd. Reference Bose's website.

Really? I looked, didn't see it there. But I did find:

The Bose Aviation Headset X, its interface, cables and electret boom microphone are FAA approved to TSO C57a and C58a. It has been designed to function in or withstand exposure to the following environmental conditions: Environmental categories cited refer to RTCA/DO-160C, December 4, 1989 and DO-214, March 4, 1993.

Weight - 12.00 oz. Power Source - BatteryAuto Shut-Off - Yes Stero/Mono - SwitchableVolume Control - DualEar Seals - protein leather foam Mic Boom - Flexible reversibleMic Type - ElectretWarranty - 5 yrs. TSO'd - YesHelicopter - NoMade In - USA Active Noise Reduction - N/AANR - YesPassive Noise Reduction - N/A Cellphone Interface - NoEarcup Style - Over the ear

http://www.sportys.com/acb/showdetl.cfm?DID=19&Product_ID=6333&CATID=94
 
http://www.ps-engineering.com/muse.shtml

I bought this gizmo back in the day - when it wasn't $200!

But it works great with any headphones :)

I have one of these and it doens't seem to interface well with my iPod and Bose. I don't know if it's a defective unit, but I bought it used and don't want to sell a defective unit so it sits in a closet.

I went to radio shack and bought a 1/4" Stereo Y-adapter, Stereo 1/4" to 1/8" adapter, 3' 1/8" male/male cable (get length appropriate for your application), and a volume control cable.

1. Plug the Y-adapter into the aircraft headphone output.

2. Plug your headset into one output of the Y-adapter and the 1/4" to 1/8" adapter into the other output.

3. Plug the male/male cable into the 1/4" to 1/8" adapter.

4. Plug volume control cable into the male/male cable.

5. Plug your ipod into the volume control cable.

6. Use the volume controler to mix the levels of your ipod and ATC/intercom. Volume all the way up will make the music loud and ATC virtually non-existant (bad!), while volume all the way down will make ATC loud and music very quiet.

7. Enjoy music while monitoring the ops frequency while at the gate only! This device is not for use in flight, as that would be unprofessional and possibly against company policy.


Another way of listening to music in the cockpit is piping it in on the jump seater's intercom, but that forces both pilots and the CVR to listen.

By the way, the Radio Shack version has functioned better than the Muse with my set-up.
 
I have one of these and it doens't seem to interface well with my iPod and Bose. I don't know if it's a defective unit, but I bought it used and don't want to sell a defective unit so it sits in a closet.

I went to radio shack and bought a 1/4" Stereo Y-adapter, Stereo 1/4" to 1/8" adapter, 3' 1/8" male/male cable (get length appropriate for your application), and a volume control cable.

1. Plug the Y-adapter into the aircraft headphone output.

2. Plug your headset into one output of the Y-adapter and the 1/4" to 1/8" adapter into the other output.

3. Plug the male/male cable into the 1/4" to 1/8" adapter.

4. Plug volume control cable into the male/male cable.

5. Plug your ipod into the volume control cable.

6. Use the volume controler to mix the levels of your ipod and ATC/intercom. Volume all the way up will make the music loud and ATC virtually non-existant (bad!), while volume all the way down will make ATC loud and music very quiet.

7. Enjoy music while monitoring the ops frequency while at the gate only! This device is not for use in flight, as that would be unprofessional and possibly against company policy.


Another way of listening to music in the cockpit is piping it in on the jump seater's intercom, but that forces both pilots and the CVR to listen.

By the way, the Radio Shack version has functioned better than the Muse with my set-up.

Out of curiosity, why do you need the volume control cable? Wouldn't the built in volume control of the Ipod serve the same function?
 
I don't have a volume control cable but after reading this post I'm gonna grab one. Without the cable I can hardly hear the Ipod...even with it cranked at full volume
 
I wear my plantronics headset in one ear (can't remember the model #, it's like the Telex 5x5), and I just stick one of my iPod buds in the other ear... on the ground only of course, while monitoring the ATIS.
 
Yeah, maybe we can vote on it again.
 
I have about 1000 hrs. on my QC2 w/ UFlyMike. I seldom miss a call while wearing the thing....not the case without (especially on our 757s w/ the obnoxious recirc fans). I've never had even the slightest problem. Too bad they won't let you guys use it any longer. It's a great set-up.
 
We start TSO testing next week. The paperwork is already started. We'll have the test results before the end of the month. Not sure how long the paperwork will take, but we 're hoping for Jun - Jul certification.

Mike
UFlyMike LLC
 
We start TSO testing next week. The paperwork is already started. We'll have the test results before the end of the month. Not sure how long the paperwork will take, but we 're hoping for Jun - Jul certification.

Mike
UFlyMike LLC

Mike,

Do you feel that it's pretty likely to get the certification? Will it apply to current UFMs, or will it be a new version?
 
We're confident it will pass the testing. If the Plantronics, Telex and Sennheiser pass, ours should fly through testing.

It will apply to past UFMs as well as new ones, but you will have to buy the TSO'd earbud to be totally legal. We're certifying it with an earbud that plugs into the mini-stereo jack. That way it will pass the test requirement that it works if the battery in the QC2 fails. The QC2, for test purposes, is nothing more than a backup audio source and a headband to hold the UFM to your head.

Mike
UFlyMike LLC
 
Pardon the inquiry, but what would a future new hire (should start in mid-September) expect to spend on a headset and more importantly, what ones do all you SWA folks recommend? thanks in advance.. -klr
 
QC2/U-flymike awesome baby!!!
 
Pardon the inquiry, but what would a future new hire (should start in mid-September) expect to spend on a headset and more importantly, what ones do all you SWA folks recommend? thanks in advance.. -klr
I would follow the recommendation of SWAPA and hold off buying any headsets. The FAA is supposed to rule by June on the requirement for TSOed headsets in the cockpit. Then based on that ruling SWA will decide which headsets they will allow. So basically don't be in a rush to buy a headset.
 

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