SWA/AT future at Risk

[texman]

Was SWA an 8 plane operation with one crazy hub in NW FLA 20 years ago? SWA had a viable business plan back then, and Vision does not. Allegiant is different, and mostly avoids conflict. The General has it right, again. Your theory is full of holes, even on FI. I am surprised you didn't add Virgin Galactic also to your "worry list.". Who knows, they may challenge SWA to the Moon someday after Airtran helps you get your ETOPS certification....


OYS

Stop wasting your time on here and go shoot at your watch.

 

[Ty Webb]

Ty...What happens if the "new SWA" with you onboard in say 5 years buys someone like Alligiant? Would you want a staple or relative, DOH....what? You may be in that position....what do you have to say?

If they brought the planes and seats with them, and there was "no bump, no flush", how would it affect me if they were integrated into our list?

Please explain how this would impact my monthly line award? My pay? My vacation? My base?

Thanks in advance.

TW

 

[St. Nic]

I think we might be part of the USAir deal in the next five years. We will take the West side only.LOL

The west is a complete disaster, pilots on furlough, never made money and were on deaths door until the USAir merger.
Seems to be the better thing to do was let them die, but for some reason SWA couldn't kill off the cockroaches out west.

 

[Kharma Police]

Midex pilot's average tenure was much higher than that of an Airtran pilot. At the time, AT was not doing them any favors seniority wise. SWA pilot's average tenure is nearly double that of Airtran's pilots. I just think it's funny that years of service don't seem to apply in AT ALPA world. Whatever happens, I'm here anyway.

Years of service didn't seem to matter at Frontier when SWAPA offered them a staple. I expect and have no issue with SWAPA asking for a low ball offer, just don't be angry or surprised when we don't accept it (just like F9).

 

[Crash Pad]

Ty is my fav! Suck it SWA. Sure you have better schedules, make more money, stay at better hotels, get cheaper booze, etc... and maybe your airline has more planes, money, hedges, etc...

Airtran brings the X factor. The X stands for awesome. Our pilots, flight attendants, gate agents, and airplanes are more awesome. GK knows this which is why he paid 1.4 billion to get a small scrap of our X factor. Good luck containing our awesome in your culture. You are just lucky we didn't buy SWA. Sure we didn't have the money but most exchanges recognize Awesome as legal tender.

So to bring this full circle. I expect SLI to be fair. Fair is simple to quantify. The pilots with the most Awesome go to the top of the list. Then the rest of the pilots are slotted in below Airtran in order of Awesome. Here is a quick chart so you can add up your awesome points.

Divorce+ 10
Second divorce+ 25
Third divorce+ 50

Iphone pictures of: your car, boat, lake house, naked wife, FA you are cheating with: +20

Iphone pictures of: Your wife and kids (subtract 100) shown with pride (subtract 200) shown shortly after FA you are cheating with pictures (add 1000)

Explain how you used to do it at Eastern +100

Complain about money to an FO +1000
Complain about money to an FO because of three divorces +5000

You can find the full list on AirtranX.com

 

[Kharma Police]

Ty is my fav! Suck it SWA. Sure you have better schedules, make more money, stay at better hotels, get cheaper booze, etc... and maybe your airline has more planes, money, hedges, etc...

Airtran brings the X factor. The X stands for awesome. Our pilots, flight attendants, gate agents, and airplanes are more awesome. GK knows this which is why he paid 1.4 billion to get a small scrap of our X factor. Good luck containing our awesome in your culture. You are just lucky we didn't buy SWA. Sure we didn't have the money but most exchanges recognize Awesome as legal tender.

So to bring this full circle. I expect SLI to be fair. Fair is simple to quantify. The pilots with the most Awesome go to the top of the list. Then the rest of the pilots are slotted in below Airtran in order of Awesome. Here is a quick chart so you can add up your awesome points.

Divorce+ 10
Second divorce+ 25
Third divorce+ 50

Iphone pictures of: your car, boat, lake house, naked wife, FA you are cheating with: +20

Iphone pictures of: Your wife and kids (subtract 100) shown with pride (subtract 200) shown shortly after FA you are cheating with pictures (add 1000)

Explain how you used to do it at Eastern +100

Complain about money to an FO +1000
Complain about money to an FO because of three divorces +5000

You can find the full list on AirtranX.com

It's a little after 1 P.M. Atlanta time, what time did you start drinking?

 

[redflyer65]

Gotta admit that's pretty funny.

One notch above a Steel Cage Death Match!

RF

 

[tankerhead]

dude, it's Awesomeness...get it right or leave the A T L

charlie sheen's affliction seems to be contagious

 

[jonjuan]

If they brought the planes and seats with them, and there was "no bump, no flush", how would it affect me if they were integrated into our list?

Please explain how this would impact my monthly line award? My pay? My vacation? My base?

Thanks in advance.

TW

Exactly-someone who gets it. Their integration with you will not affect your QOL in any way, shape or form. You aren't looking to climb on top of someone simply because you think you are a better pilot who "earned" his position.

 

[On Your Six]

Stop wasting your time on here and go shoot at your watch.

You are either very drunk or a complete tard.


OYS

 

[PapaWoody]

The west is a complete disaster, pilots on furlough, never made money and were on deaths door until the USAir merger.
Seems to be the better thing to do was let them die, but for some reason SWA couldn't kill off the cockroaches out west.

This would be a true statement if you would only substitute the word east for west. At least that's how I remember it.

PW

 

[PapaWoody]

It's a little after 1 P.M. Atlanta time, what time did you start drinking?

Come on, Kharma...that was a little bitter at the beginning, but it ended up being balls out funny. In a word - Awesome!

PW

PS I would add +2000 APs (awesome points) for commenting how great it is that we all get 5 more years as a CA thanks to Age 60 change.

 

[27 driver]

Come on, Kharma...that was a little bitter at the beginning, but it ended up being balls out funny. In a word - Awesome!

PW

PS I would add +2000 APs (awesome points) for commenting how great it is that we all get 5 more years as a CA thanks to Age 60 change.

PW, you can tack another 1000 points if you mention your 3'rd vacation home or your 40 ft or larger boat in the same sentence.

And it was funny. Even for this tranny pilot.

 

[Music]

Ty is my fav! Suck it SWA. Sure you have better schedules, make more money, stay at better hotels, get cheaper booze, etc... and maybe your airline has more planes, money, hedges, etc...

Airtran brings the X factor. The X stands for awesome. Our pilots, flight attendants, gate agents, and airplanes are more awesome. GK knows this which is why he paid 1.4 billion to get a small scrap of our X factor. Good luck containing our awesome in your culture. You are just lucky we didn't buy SWA. Sure we didn't have the money but most exchanges recognize Awesome as legal tender.

So to bring this full circle. I expect SLI to be fair. Fair is simple to quantify. The pilots with the most Awesome go to the top of the list. Then the rest of the pilots are slotted in below Airtran in order of Awesome. Here is a quick chart so you can add up your awesome points.

Divorce+ 10
Second divorce+ 25
Third divorce+ 50

Iphone pictures of: your car, boat, lake house, naked wife, FA you are cheating with: +20

Iphone pictures of: Your wife and kids (subtract 100) shown with pride (subtract 200) shown shortly after FA you are cheating with pictures (add 1000)

Explain how you used to do it at Eastern +100

Complain about money to an FO +1000
Complain about money to an FO because of three divorces +5000

You can find the full list on AirtranX.com

LOL! How many points for that third timeshare for your 3rd wife that your using as collateral for your new Harley?

 

[Sandhawk]

The west is a complete disaster, pilots on furlough, never made money and were on deaths door until the USAir merger.
Seems to be the better thing to do was let them die, but for some reason SWA couldn't kill off the cockroaches out west.

This would be a true statement if you would only substitute the word east for west. At least that's how I remember it.

PW

Ding! Ding! Ding!

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner! to PapaWoody

:beer:

 

[Lonestar]

I expect and have no issue with SWAPA asking for a low ball offer, just don't be angry or surprised when we don't accept it (just like F9).

Um...Kharma...have u seen how that worked out for the F9 guys?

What's that quote, something about "Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it"?

 

[jonjuan]

Um...Kharma...have u seen how that worked out for the F9 guys?

What's that quote, something about "Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it"?

Lucky for at, gary wants it more than you. My monies on gk.

 

[Whine Lover]

" I expect and have no issue with SWAPA asking for a low ball offer, just don't be angry or surprised when we don't accept it (just like F9)."


Yeah...those F9 guys made out like frickin' Bandits!

That was monumental decision making.

I mean, faced with so many difficult choices:

- Liquidation

- SWA Staple

- Republic Butt Raping

Those men collectively stood their ground and opened their cheeks wide so as not to take the INSULT of the SWA offer.

Kudos!

YKW

 

[Kharma Police]

" I expect and have no issue with SWAPA asking for a low ball offer, just don't be angry or surprised when we don't accept it (just like F9)."


Yeah...those F9 guys made out like frickin' Bandits!

That was monumental decision making.

I mean, faced with so many difficult choices:

- Liquidation

- SWA Staple

- Republic Butt Raping

Those men collectively stood their ground and opened their cheeks wide so as not to take the INSULT of the SWA offer.

Kudos!

YKW

Interesting how the Southwest pilots like to gloat about F9's current situation yet overlook the fact that the Frontier pilots were so taken aback by SWAPA's, "offer" that they said, "no thanks, we'll go with the commuter airline instead." Must have been one heck of an impression with the F9 pilots.....

 

[General Lee]

Um...Kharma...have u seen how that worked out for the F9 guys?

What's that quote, something about "Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it"?

Arbitrators will make sure history doesn't repeat itself. That is the game changer for SWAPA.


Bye Bye--General Lee