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IHaveAPension said:
Just wait till the fuel hedges run dry on those arrogant military southwest pilots!!!!

Then the will just be pilots working for another unhedged major, kinda like yourself, 410Dude.
 
Everyone is having fun with this, but the opening post was the dumbest shi* I've heard in a long time on this site, and that's saying something. Fortunately, all the civilian guys I've flown with so far have been much cooler than this punk and have put aside any preconceived notions about military pilots they might have had. Same with the mil guys and their civilian counterparts. Hmmmm...maybe that's why they got interviewed and hired at the the best gig going in aviation right now.
 
yeah, you're right. I guess it just irritates me when civilian dudes are quick to judge and disparage military guys. Say what you will, but I do NOT see a bunch of 30 something ANG/AFRES airline pilots sitting around thinking of ways to slam commuter pilots. However, I seem to see a lot of CRJ types haranguing military pilots on this site.

Everyone that gets to a major pays their dues somehow. The mil/civ argument is a waste of time, but people don't seem to tire of it.
 
MAGNUM!! said:
yeah, you're right. I guess it just irritates me when civilian dudes are quick to judge and disparage military guys. Say what you will, but I do NOT see a bunch of 30 something ANG/AFRES airline pilots sitting around thinking of ways to slam commuter pilots. However, I seem to see a lot of CRJ types haranguing military pilots on this site.

Most CRJ types on this board are double wannabes. They wanted to fly in the military but couldn't get accepted into flight training for various reasons and now can't get on with a major for various reasons so us former military pilots are the easy targets of their jealousy and envy. IMHO, they made their bed by being willing to do anything to fly a new RJ, now they will have to lie in it for the rest of their careers!!!!
 
I don't know about the rest of you, but it's been my experience here at JB and meeting other pilots from other carriers that 99% are good guys and gals experiencing their passion for flying; mil., civ., or whatever. As in anywhere in life there are always a small group of Alpa Hotels, who stand out. All you can do is ignore them and hope they experience one of their kind treatin them in a similar manner.
 
>>How do you normal SWA guys handle these clowns for days on the road<<

If you tell them that the A-10 guys always have the best real war stories it usually shuts them right up.
 
Very true. As usual I should have thought a little more before I opened my big mouth. For that I apologize. What I mean't to say is that every ex airforce SWA pilot I've encountered has been an A$$ clown. May be its becaused I served in the army.
Widow's Son said:
>>How do you normal SWA guys handle these clowns for days on the road<<

If you tell them that the A-10 guys always have the best real war stories it usually shuts them right up.
 
every ex airforce SWA pilot I've encountered has been an A$ clown.
Cool let's start busting on ascot wearing zoomies! It's amazing how the Marines are minuscule in comparison to the other services but we carry most of the fight!
"Cleared hot"....BEEEEP. This flame gets more entertaining every post!
 
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Purpledog said:
It's amazing how the Marines are minuscule in comparison to the other services !

But lets keep your personal life out of this! :p

When folks ask if I was in the military I usually tell 'em "no, I was Air Force".
 
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klhoard said:
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No kidding. Especially when you get someone to put you on their "ignore" list. Some people get wrapped a bit too tight on a forum based on hiding behind a mask.

By the way, military pilots suck as airline pilots. Ask the instructors.
 
TAZ MAN said:
By the way, military pilots suck as airline pilots. Ask the instructors.

I know! Crazy, huh?

But they just keep on hiring the sh!t out of us anyway - does that suck for guys like yourself?
 
TAZ MAN said:
No kidding. Especially when you get someone to put you on their "ignore" list. Some people get wrapped a bit too tight on a forum based on hiding behind a mask.

By the way, military pilots suck as airline pilots. Ask the instructors.
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I would consider it an honor to be placed on your ignore list, Taz. . . .
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Guys, there are 2 kinds of pilots out there, but its not Military or Civilian. There are Kool Pilots and not so Kool Pilots. Military or not has nothing to do with it. At the end of the day, we're really ALL civilian pilots.;)
 
YGBSM said:
I know! Crazy, huh?

But they just keep on hiring the sh!t out of us anyway - does that suck for guys like yourself?

The crazy thing is I hear military guys complain about other military guys. You don't see that on the civilian side.

Yes it is a problem that I know won't go away. But thats ok. It gives us something to laugh about.
 
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I would consider it an honor to be placed on your ignore list, Taz. . . .
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Still waiting for the more than two sentence intelligent remark. Guess its not going to happen. Shocker.
 
What a maroon.........I bet you are fun to fly with!!!!!
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Personally, I think that the airlines should fill their new-hire classes with ONLY military guys. Any left over slots can be filled by highly qualified civilian guys if the company can demonstrate a need.
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YGBSM said:
You beat me to it.

Wow! both of you guys are just as quick witted! :rolleyes:

It is the truth. I have never heard a civilian complain about other "civilian" pilots. But I have heard on many occasions former military guys complain about other "military" pilots. The common quote is " why can't they just get over it."

The only reason there is the military vs civilian thing is because of some of the ex-military guys. They have left the military and entered the civilian world and expect us to enter the military world. I must say that most of the ex-military guys you wouldn't know unless they told you that they use to be in the military. The other minority, well, it is quite different. Anti-social if you ask the flight attendants.
 
TAZ MAN said:
No kidding. Especially when you get someone to put you on their "ignore" list. Some people get wrapped a bit too tight on a forum based on hiding behind a mask.

By the way, military pilots suck as airline pilots. Ask the instructors.

Hmmm...I guess there are gross generalizations. If I was to put one with the civilian dude, I would say that they are 2 dimensional and couldn't spot another airplane to save their life, but I don't want to start something up here becasue I suck as an airline pilot...I'll ask the instructor...oh wait that is me and I told myself that I suck. Well better to suck as an airline pilot and point the nose at the ground to drop bombs than to not suck as an airline pilot. WOW...what asperations.

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white E said:
Hmmm...I guess there are gross generalizations. If I was to put one with the civilian dude, I would say that they are 2 dimensional and couldn't spot another airplane to save their life, but I don't want to start something up here becasue I suck as an airline pilot...I'll ask the instructor...oh wait that is me and I told myself that I suck. Well better to suck as an airline pilot and point the nose at the ground to drop bombs than to not suck as an airline pilot. WOW...what asperations.

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Because we can't spot another airplane?? Is this really a problem??

Case in point. :rolleyes:

I have had many instructors talk about the problem with the military guys coming through training. Even our VP of ops, former military, has mentioned the fact. So Mr. Instructor on the E-145, you can't tell the difference?? You are then in the minority.
 
TAZ MAN said:
The only reason there is the military vs civilian thing is because of some of the ex-military guys.

or because somebody (military or civilian) keeps perpetuating the pathetic argument

Good Luck.
 
kilroy said:
Was in BHM last week on a ron the following day got a shuttle ride to the airport with 2 SWA pilots. Could tell these guys were ex military from a 1000 feet. So I made the mistake of trying to be friendly start a conversation. I must tell you this was the most arrogant, stuck up crew I have ever had the misfortune of talking to.

Are all ex-military in love with themselfs. There were other people on the bus pax for the airlines and I was actually embarrassed talking to these guys by how much the loved themselves.

I've met alot of SWA guys and typically there all great friendly, easy to talk to and down to earth. I don't think I could last one day on the road never mind 4-5 days. How do you normal SWA guys handle these clowns for days on the road ?

They were probably still upset about having to pay for training.
 
TAZ MAN said:
Wow! both of you guys are just as quick witted! :rolleyes:

It is the truth. I have never heard a civilian complain about other "civilian" pilots. But I have heard on many occasions former military guys complain about other "military" pilots. The common quote is " why can't they just get over it."

The only reason there is the military vs civilian thing is because of some of the ex-military guys. They have left the military and entered the civilian world and expect us to enter the military world. I must say that most of the ex-military guys you wouldn't know unless they told you that they use to be in the military. The other minority, well, it is quite different. Anti-social if you ask the flight attendants.
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Come on Taz, admit it, you were booted out of ROTC under the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy, weren't you??
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Not that there is anything wrong with that. . . just stay in touch with your feelings. . .
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