SWA and SKWY?

[Whataburger]

Didn't we just launch an add campaign that made fun of "small jets?"

 

[puddlejumper101]

i wonder if SWA saw an opportunity in smaller markets where they don't have the equipment to operate into and out of. Anything is possible I guess...but it goes against everything they have done.

 

[CF34-3B1]

Our latest contract update from our union says they are happy with our newest scope language just finished up.
Our union president also says he expects SWA to sign a codeshare with a regional airline in the very near future.

Those 2 statements are mutually exclusive.

Giving away ANY SWA flying is unacceptable as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Whataburger]

Wasn't part of Parker's quick departure because of the proposal of us buying and flying RJ's?

PS. I bet none of us have an idea what's going on regardless of what we think we know. I bet 5000 of General Lee's posts that that we wont merge with SKYW. I bet his other 5000 we WILL do something, we are poised to do something, and it will blindside all of us.

 

[Daddy]

Wasn't part of Parker's quick departure because of the proposal of us buying and flying RJ's?

PS. I bet none of us have an idea what's going on regardless of what we think we know. I bet 5000 of General Lee's posts that that we wont merge with SKYW. I bet his other 5000 we WILL do something, we are poised to do something, and it will blindside all of us.

Concur...well said

 

[Headfake14]

...I've heard SWA/WestJet stuff...

 

[wmuflyguy]

I would bet Southwest to start doing international flying (Caribbean/Mexico/Canada) before they would start with any RJ's.

 

[LeonPhelps]

So, help me out here...if we have "feeders" into larger locations, that fly the "big" stuff outta there. Wouldn't that be called a "hub and spoke"? Just curious...

 

[firstthird]

So, help me out here...if we have "feeders" into larger locations, that fly the "big" stuff outta there. Wouldn't that be called a "hub and spoke"? Just curious...

which is why many SWA guys on here, me included, don't think this particular rumor will pan out.

SWA does have some 'pseudo-hubs' at our big bases, mainly the pilot/FA domiclies, where much of our transferring traffic does indeed transfer.

But the difference between that and a true hub and spoke is the absence of feed, i.e. RJs. the problem with us getting a feeder is that many of our domiciles/pseudo-hubs don't have a lot of extra capacity left to throw in 100 rj flights a day (MDW, PHX, OAK, DAL, probably all of them). they work now because we don't have a hub push which clobbers the one or two runways that we have available at most of them.

Thus, let us all hope that SWA management is smart enough not to fix something that isn't broken. all the best to the skywest guys, but this SWA pilot wants SWA pilots to fly SWA pax (and for the ATA codeshare to go away as soon as possible).

 

[Bako Cap]

One fleet type for SWA is 1990's thinking. What percentage of new flying lost money last year? Most? SWA needs to expand their opperations and the current way of flooding a new market with 737s and not making money will not work for much longer. If a new fleet type is needed it should be the 700 and not the 1000. The 1000 is too close in seat numbers to the 737. The 700 has half the seats of a 737 and would be a good supplement too a new or faltering market that does not support the 737.

On that note. PLEASE do not let anyone not on your seniority list perform YOUR flying in aircraft sporting YOUR colors.

 

[firstthird]

One fleet type for SWA is 1990's thinking. What percentage of new flying lost money last year? Most?

Unless you have access to more data than the airline analysts do, then you can't answer that question any better than I can. One analyst claimed that all our new routes are losing money but other people have pointed out the he can't know that.

Our profits this year have actually been pretty good, we're up to about 550 million in the first 3 quarters, not where we want to be, but okay.

If we get a second a/c type, I hope that it is the 787 to do our OWN international flying rather than codesharing it out.

What we surely don't need is 70 seat RJs with their associated high CASMs.

Frankly, I think the ATA codeshare is a mistake and hope we end it as soon as we can and still fulfill our obligations to ATA. Let ATA do what they do, and let SWA pilots/FAs/agents take care of people that buy tickets on our website.

The front office is messing up by contracting out the customer service experience.

This isn't to say anything negative about ATA or an RJ provider, just that SWA should be doing SWA stuff. If we can't swim on our own then we've got some changing to do, but we'll never know if we try to cover up our problems with latest 'quick fix' that guys like Boyd have been pushing for years. Not that he consults for EMB or anything. Wonder why he thinks that SWA needs Embraers? hmm.

 

[SWA GUY]

Our current scope clause states that if SWA grows by 5% or less annually, all code share flying will cease. We are growing at 6% as of right now, so I doubt we'll be taking on anymore code sharing partners.

The code share with ATA was part of the MDW package (thanks Mayor Daly). It was either we got the gates and the code share, or nuttin at all.

Rumors are fun though......

 

[Truckdriver]

I heard SKYW is going to drop all feed to Delta and United and switch, essentially overnight to SWA. How will those two do with out the feed to their hubs?

Probably just fine. Delta could have Delta pilots fly all the CRJ900's that they own and I'm sure Delta pilots would love to get the CRJ700's over at mainline also. SkyWest dropping feed for Delta and United would be great. One could only hope that would be the case.

 

[CF34-3B1]

On the other hand, maybe a Ryanair codeshare would be ok..........

http://www.gadling.com/2007/11/19/ryanair-flight-attendants-like-youve-never-seen-them-before/http://www.gadling.com/2007/11/19/ryanair-flight-attendants-like-youve-never-seen-them-before

 

[TheCheat]

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Heard it was going to being only Int'l ops for SWA though...if it actually happens.

Gee... a year and a half ago this rumor was all the rage here at Expressjet. I didn't believe it then and I don't believe it now either. It was supposedly because we have a great operating certificate for flights into Mexico. Or something... I have no idea how these ops things work. But Skywest barely even flies to Mexico.

But what do I know. If you SWA folks are hearing it from within then maybe there's some truth to it. As for it circling the halls of Skywest, PE once said "Don't believe the hype"