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27 driver said:
And costs the shareholders 400 million a year in synergies. Not sure that is a sound business decision.
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Not trying to stir the pot but Gary can have all the synergies he wants with a Section 1 waiver of the SWAPA contract. Protects SWAPA pilots and more importantly protects the shareholders.

Gup
 
GuppyWN said:
Not trying to stir the pot but Gary can have all the synergies he wants with a Section 1 waiver of the SWAPA contract. Protects SWAPA pilots and more importantly protects the shareholders.

Gup
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Not sure I believe you. Details please. And I think you may be stirring a little. :beer:
 
Not stirring at all. Section 1 relief via Codeshare with Airtran. Connect more dots with "company" assets. Add to that a "lease" of a couple AAI ATL gates where WN brings them to you with routes you don't fly now and you haul them to the Caribbean.

Right now our contract does NOT allow this to happen. Yours does.

Gup
 
I'm surprised that I'm not seeing Airtran guys posting here that a relative seniority arbitration would be a bad outcome. Why do I say this? Can you imagine the rage that will result in the SWA pilot group? GK has to be aware of the shiite-storm this would unleash.

Do you really think we'll all go, "Well, if that's what the arbitrator says, then I guess its okay."

I fly most of my trips with guys who come nowhere near being part of the angry, over-the-top, pot-stirring 10%-ers mentioned earlier in this thread, but they all have pretty serious opinions about relative seniority.

Can GK possibly be blind to this train wreck? Synergies? That's funny!
 
Juniority said:
I'm surprised that I'm not seeing Airtran guys posting here that a relative seniority arbitration would be a bad outcome. Why do I say this? Can you imagine the rage that will result in the SWA pilot group? GK has to be aware of the shiite-storm this would unleash.

Do you really think we'll all go, "Well, if that's what the arbitrator says, then I guess its okay."

I fly most of my trips with guys who come nowhere near being part of the angry, over-the-top, pot-stirring 10%-ers mentioned earlier in this thread, but they all have pretty serious opinions about relative seniority.

Can GK possibly be blind to this train wreck? Synergies? That's funny!
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I don't think GK is blind to anything. He is a smart guy. Synergies was his word not mine. I am not sure what you want here. I guess if you decide you don't like the arbitration you agreed to you can do what US Air did. Its served them well.
 
Juniority said:
I'm surprised that I'm not seeing Airtran guys posting here that a relative seniority arbitration would be a bad outcome. Why do I say this? Can you imagine the rage that will result in the SWA pilot group? GK has to be aware of the shiite-storm this would unleash.

Do you really think we'll all go, "Well, if that's what the arbitrator says, then I guess its okay."

I fly most of my trips with guys who come nowhere near being part of the angry, over-the-top, pot-stirring 10%-ers mentioned earlier in this thread, but they all have pretty serious opinions about relative seniority.

Can GK possibly be blind to this train wreck? Synergies? That's funny!
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Juniority, unfortunately we can't talk about SLI expectations, but you have a good point, and we do recognize this.
 
RLAblows said:
I don't think the AT pilots have a "go for it all" attitude. Please don't speak for us. We aren't that greedy and have a pretty good grasp of the situation.
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RLA,

Brilliant! The smart thing for all of us to do is follow your example and let our teams speak for our interests.

The history of Southwest Airlines is written in shared success; sounds like a good formula for the future.
 
RLAblows said:
I don't think the AT pilots have a "go for it all" attitude. Please don't speak for us. We aren't that greedy and have a pretty good grasp of the situation.
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Are you kidding me? Really? You actually think you should give away "some" seniority to people that aren't in control of your merger? This was done by GK, not SWAPA. Like OYS says, arbitrators will determine what is and what is not fair. And, you don't want that...... you don't want what you deserve? You should go for it all, as in go for what you deserve. If you don't think that way, go work at a Subway.


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
ivauir said:
RLA,

Brilliant! The smart thing for all of us to do is follow your example and let our teams speak for our interests.

The history of Southwest Airlines is written in shared success; sounds like a good formula for the future.
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Yes, you like this attitude. Do you think he really is a SWA pilot in disguise? Sounds like it. I bet you want them to accept SWAPA's offers, which will no doubt be less than what arbitrators would give. I can see why you love this guy! The problem is, nobody knows if anyone on the negotiating committees want to eventually be officers at SWAPA. Sometimes that leads to bad deals, sometimes. Arbitration will be fair, because there is no bias, and no gain for the arbitrators except the standard fee. Brilliant! Cheers Mate, have a Fosters, Australian for Beer MATE!


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
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General Lee,
You must be the loneliest, dorkiest, and homeliest individual on the entire web. How can someone spend sooooo much time on the internet and still have a normal social life?! What I find incredibly funny is that 99% of all human beings only spend time on events that affect them directly (or somewhat indirectly). You, however, hang out in the SWA/AAI threads with no "dog in the fight". Go feed your hamster, polish your pocket protector, or go watch some more Japanese animated cartoons. Pleeeeeeeeeease, for the love of all things Holy, NOBODY GIVES A CRAP WHAT YOU THINK (except for you and your sock puppet). Geeeeeeesh!
 
navy737 said:
General Lee,
You must be the loneliest, dorkiest, and homeliest individual on the entire web. How can someone spend sooooo much time on the internet and still have a normal social life?! What I find incredibly funny is that 99% of all human beings only spend time on events that affect them directly (or somewhat indirectly). You, however, hang out in the SWA/AAI threads with no "dog in the fight". Go feed your hamster, polish your pocket protector, or go watch some more Japanese animated cartoons. Pleeeeeeeeeease, for the love of all things Holy, NOBODY GIVES A CRAP WHAT YOU THINK (except for you and your sock puppet). Geeeeeeesh!
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Thanks I needed the laugh. Yes, what he said.
 
navy737 said:
General Lee,
You must be the loneliest, dorkiest, and homeliest individual on the entire web. How can someone spend sooooo much time on the internet and still have a normal social life?! What I find incredibly funny is that 99% of all human beings only spend time on events that affect them directly (or somewhat indirectly). You, however, hang out in the SWA/AAI threads with no "dog in the fight". Go feed your hamster, polish your pocket protector, or go watch some more Japanese animated cartoons. Pleeeeeeeeeease, for the love of all things Holy, NOBODY GIVES A CRAP WHAT YOU THINK (except for you and your sock puppet). Geeeeeeesh!
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WRONG ON ALL COUNTS. THIS IS AN OPINION BOARD. Did you know that? If you only want Southwest pilots to read something, go to an exclusive board. You can make one yourself, and call it "Navy 737's Blue Oyster club, for hairy singles." I bet you'd have Redflyer, Momma Gup, Southwest F/O, and others all over that.

I enjoy this board, aviation debate, and the industry. Got it? Now get some sleep before your 6am flight to MAF tomorrow. (ZZZZZZ BORING)


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
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RLAblows said:
Thanks I needed the laugh. Yes, what he said.
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Did milk come out of your nose, too? Hahahahaha. Go give up some seniority while you're at it, you turncoat. Are trying to join the SWAPA MEC? You'll do whatever it takes to do that, right? Will you hold Redflyer's hand? That would be cool for you guys. Now that will be BRILLIANT!!!! And look up the Foster's commercial on the internet while you're at it.


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
GL, feel like posting your schedule on here? I just don't believe someone who does all of this international flying could possibly post as much as you. Everyday, almost everyhour you are on here. Me starting to think your schedule involves home schooling.
 
Bake said:
GL, feel like posting your schedule on here? I just don't believe someone who does all of this international flying could possibly post as much as you. Everyday, almost everyhour you are on here. Me starting to think your schedule involves home schooling.
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So, I am on here during weird hours too? Maybe I am flying somewhere far away, where it could be 9am there, and 3am here? Or, maybe it is 6pm there, and 1am where you are? Sounds like INTL flying to me. And yes, I have a computer with me, but some resorts in the Pacific rim don't have great connections. (very isolated beaches, but very nice) I try to mix it up with desitinations. Now that we do Asia stuff, I fly some trips with Guam, Saipan, and Palau layovers, and I alternate that with Europe and some South America stuff too (Rio usually). Thanks for caring, though.

What is this about "Herb time" at SWA? Every dep and arr is posted on your own schedules at Dallas Love time or CST? Interesting.


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
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