SWA/AAI SLI agreement in principle.

[The Prussian]

I live and own a place in Atlanta. And own a sailboat in the carribean. I hold all weekends and holidays off. I credited 119 hours this month. My girlfriend is a doctor who has a practice in Atlanta.
Now after 5 years here I won't be able to hold Atlanta - even on reserve. So now i will get laid less and sail less, and will now have to commute to sit reserve all for some higher hourly pay.. Sorry I'm not jumping for joy. I'd gladly trade the raise for my seniority back.

With your run on bad luck...who needs good luck?? :cartman:

 

[waveflyer]

I actually feel what he's saying. he made a pretty good life and doesn't want a change to it. That's not hard to understand. But two things. Theres a really common saying here- said sarcastically "its all about you, isnt it?"- there will be some blatantly unfair situations in a 7800 pilot group. When its time to vote- we have to vote the whole group and proposal. We have to think how this deal affects everyone. And 2-I think patience is in order. I'd imagine that life will continue and then some for you blade. Maybe a hiccup in it for a year or so- if at all. Maybe I'm unplugged, but I don't know anyone jonesing to get into ATL, you could offer me an upgrade tomorrow and im not heading there. But let's see the whole package.

I'll see you in the BVI's man and drinks on me.

 

[Daddy]

I live and own a place in Atlanta. And own a sailboat in the carribean. I hold all weekends and holidays off. I credited 119 hours this month. My girlfriend is a doctor who has a practice in Atlanta.
Now after 5 years here I won't be able to hold Atlanta - even on reserve. So now i will get laid less and sail less, and will now have to commute to sit reserve all for some higher hourly pay.. Sorry I'm not jumping for joy. I'd gladly trade the raise for my seniority back.

Blade, you will have plenty of time to sail AND bang your girlfriend. You can trade your stuff, give it away, split it, and do all kinds of things to open up big gaps of time off in your schedule. Plus, with the pay raise, you will be able to have more time off for the same amount of money. So rig your sails, pack your KY, stock up on midget porn, and tie on your jumping shoes...joy is here to stay!

 

[sfomarc]

Blade, you will have plenty of time to sail AND bang your girlfriend. You can trade your stuff, give it away, split it, and do all kinds of things to open up big gaps

One guy tried to "trade his stuff" with me. I told him to keep her even if he gave her away or split her.

 

[humveedriver]

He will probably be able to afford a second boat and girlfriend in Oakland after the pay increase. This merger is going to cause some upset in our lives, just gotta look for the upsides.

 

[redflyer65]

P.S still looking forward to the interline and have a swa pilot and Fa on my boat. Looking forward to meeting up with rest of the swa/at boats going.

Now that's a great post!!

 

[kwick]

Good comments by all, I appreciate everyone's input (Yes, even T45 and yoyoma's)...

Like I said in that post, I truly wasn't trying to be negative, I just wanted to hear what the realities were of being in that bidding percentage. Being prepared for something makes it easier to adjust, or at least that's how I've found it to be. Thanks to those who answered.

Looking forward to seeing what the MC and NC come back with once the MEC sends it out to us. Until then, ya'll fly safe, and I look forward to meeting more of you out there.

The Law is pretty clear that just because your airline is bought you
should not have to lose your Captain seat or your seniority.

Hold firm and vote this "bad deal" down.

These guys bought their jobs, PFT, and now they want GK to buy them
YOUR Captains seat and Seniority.

Some things aren't for sale!

 

[GuppyWN]

How do you know its a bad deal? Have you seen it?

Gup

 

[MILF Hunter]

Executive Blog - July 21, 2011
From your president, Steve Chase
On Saturday, July 16, 2011 your Negotiating Committee reached an Agreement-in-Principle with Southwest Airlines and ATN-ALPA on a comprehensive deal to integrate our pilot groups. This is the culmination of ten months of hard work, collaboration and planning. I am very pleased that SWAPA was able to deliver and meet the task of reaching this monumental agreement.
Many of our pilots are obviously anxious to hear the details of the deal. As you know, we’ve continually communicated our goals throughout this process and I’m proud to say that your Negotiating Committee believes we met the goals set forth by your board of directors. The BOD will thoroughly review this agreement next week prior to publishing the full details to the Membership.
The delay in getting details to you is understandably frustrating, but this is the normal process when we negotiate. Make no mistake, negotiations have concluded and we are moving into the academic phase of writing final language. There is a lot of work to be done prior to BOD vetting and membership vote. The BOD has been briefed on the Agreement-in-Principle and will receive full language next week.
Once we have education material prepared and roadshows scheduled, the Membership will view the full details and have plenty of opportunity to ask direct questions of their reps and NC as we are dedicated to presenting unbiased, factual data for the membership to review. Details without full context would lead to inaccurate conclusions. We have a full plate of roadshows planned across the system as well as multimedia explanations of the effect of the Seniority List.
You can be proud of your Association through this process. Our committee members, governance and staff have given the Negotiating Committee the tools and support necessary to bring these negotiations to a close. There are many hurdles remaining before a fully implemented Integrated Seniority List (ISL) is applied. The SWAPA Board of Directors, ATN-ALPA Master Executive Council and both memberships have to ratify this deal. Though the negotiations are finalized, our marathon continues as we move into the education phase of this process.
Captain Steve Chase
President
Southwest Airlines Pilots' Association

A guy I know in ATL says apparently ALPA thinks negotiations are on-going. He said the MC wasn't necessarily supposed to negotiate a comprehensive deal, and now the MEC has involved ALPA national to come in and fix what they don't like.

It sure seems, though, that SWAPA has a different opinion entirely. I can't imagine the response when ALPA tells SWAPA they need to re-negotiate some thing that were unintentionally agreed to. Could be interesting!

 

[swa737-700]

A guy I know in ATL says apparently ALPA thinks negotiations are on-going. He said the MC wasn't necessarily supposed to negotiate a comprehensive deal, and now the MEC has involved ALPA national to come in and fix what they don't like.

It sure seems, though, that SWAPA has a different opinion entirely. I can't imagine the response when ALPA tells SWAPA they need to re-negotiate some thing that were unintentionally agreed to. Could be interesting!

Sounds like the Transition Agreement. AT agreed to the plan and then decided not to agree. What is going on in that union? The left hand does not know what the right hand is doing!! I'm not surprised. Embarrassing.

If what you are saying is true, perhaps SWAPA's statement is a warning shot over the bow!?!?