SWA 6.36% raise 9/1

[skirt]

whats the least amount you can fly?

I wouldn't ask that if you want to fly at SWA or JB!

Skirt

 

[RightBettor]

Okay Skirt,

What the heck was that supposed to mean? When I flew for UAL I had fewer days off than I do now working for SWA!!! Go figure! I was on floater reserve getting 12 days off a month at UAL. When I get a reserve line at SWA I get 15 days off. The difference is now I don't sit around Denver for 3.5 hours waiting for my next flight!! My schedules are far more productive at SWA and a lineholder's monthly block hours are comparable.

BTW, you can drop your trips if you want to at SWA. You work as much or as little as you want to work.

Believe whatever you want to believe.

 

[dogg]

Spooky, Got a question for ya.......I am looking at my line for Sept. and I am going to fly 78 hrs of blk and be paid for 79 and I am going to get 15 days off. How would my 79 hrs of pay with 78 hrs of block convert to the average trips for pay/ block hrs for you guys and would you have more or less days off to come out the same? Just curious where I will end up after a 23% pay cut in comparison to Y'all. Thanks

 

[skirt]

I think she means that SWA and JB are interested in people who are not afraid to work hard.

Thanks xXpress1 for jumping in. That is exactly what I meant. You xXpressed it much better than I!

Much Thanks
Skirt

 

[canyonblue]

I am going to fly 78 hrs of blk and be paid for 79 and I am going to get 15 days off. How would my 79 hrs of pay with 78 hrs of block convert to the average trips for pay/ block hrs for you guys and would you have more or less days off to come out the same?

My September line has:

Days Off: 17
Flight Hours: 74:55
TAFB: 227:10
TFP: 89.10
Pay converted to hours: 78:12

2nd year F/O

Actually that was my original line, I picked up a day trip in Trip Trade/Give Away. A fellow pilot was overnighting in my hometown and giving away that portion of the trip (the last day). We can split trips anywhere and give it away. I don't always add to my schedule but the chance to pick up a nice paying day trip starting out of my hometown was too much to pass over. I'm just surprised that SWA/FO didn't see it FIRST! Dude you're gettin slow

As far as giving away trips, you can give away your whole line if you want. Flew with a Senior Captain a while back who gave away ALOT! But then again he lives in the Bahamas on his boat so I imagine he did not need to fly much. Nice to have options, stock options that is!

 

[sfomarc]

Picking up extra trips also depend on what base you are flying out of or how far you are willing to commute for extra fly. I here that places like HOU or DAL it is very hard to pick up trips while the more junior bases it is easy. I would imagine that picking up out of OAK is easy since not many people live there.

I pick up when as much as I can of good paying trips and live in base and average about 110-115 TFP per month. My highest was just over 154 with block hours about 80. No life though and would not do that again.

When I was computing all the numbers I just used contracted pay rates and normal line TFP (reserve is 90) anything over that is gravy. I would not set your sights too high and then find out you cant pick up. Also I do not figure perdiem in my pay as I usually spend all or close to it on the road.

Good luck.

 

[enigma]

This is an old number, so take it for what it's worth. A trip originally equated to the scheduled flight time between DAL and HOU or SAT, and is about 7 tenths.

waiting for my chance to jump into the deep end.
enigma,

 

[SWA GUY]

No problem picking up trips in HOU, not sure about DAL

HC

HOU FO, 2.5 yrs

 

[Falconjet]

Canyon, sfo, swaguy:

Could any of you (or anyother 2nd or first year FO) break down your month in terms of schedule. Info like your domicile, days on/off, report times and duty day, where the overnights are, and when you get done at the end of the trip would be enlightening, in addition to the block hours and pay you have already put out there. Just wondering what your Sep trips look like, realizing that there is probably no such thing as a typical line. Thanks for the input.

 

[zymotic]

Deadhead Pay

Is the deadhead pay at SWA full pay. In other words, do you get make the same sitting in back as you do in front or is it cut in half or something?

 

[PTinbound]

Zymotic, yes, it is full 1 for 1 pay just as if you were up front.
Reason #547 to fly for the best airline in the world.

 

[Bill Nelson]

What is required to "opt" in for the -200. I understand that not everyone is required to get qualified in the -200 anymore. If you are not qualified in the -200 does it keep you from picking up trips in DAL and HOU in case of an unscheduled A/C swap?

By the way, were do I sign up?

 

[canyonblue]

Re: Canyon, sfo, swaguy:

Could any of you (or anyother 2nd or first year FO) break down your month in terms of schedule. Info like your domicile, days on/off, report times and duty day, where the overnights are, and when you get done at the end of the trip

Domicile: MDW

Days at work: Sept. 6-8, 13-16, 20-22, 27-29

Report Times: 14:30, 13:30, 13:25, 15:25, 12:50, 15:10, 13:00, 15:45, 13:50, 14:10, 14:10, 14:00, 12:35 for each day.

Duty Day (hrs): 8:10, 7:35, 7:45, 8:25, 7:35, 9:25, 9:55, 5:00, 10:50, 7:05, 7:50, 7:55, 7:50. Includes duty on and off times.

Overnights: SAN, PVD, LAS, SJC, MHT, OKC, SMF, ONT

 

[box]

How does it work if you want to pick up trips from another base?

Are you able to pick up from the day the bid awards come out or is there a period of time that only trading/picking up from within the base is allowed?

Thanks

xXpress1,

If you bid to pick up from trips from another base, your seniority for that bid is below any other pilot from that domicile who also bids for that trip. The bids are all due at the same time (the day prior); it's just that your bid gets "subordinated" below any in-domicile pilots bidding for that trip. This "subordination" rule only applies to trips that are picked up from the company open time.

If you are trading trips directly with another pilot or accepting a give-away from another pilot, then it doesn't matter who is based where. As long as it's legal by FARs (30 in 7, etc.), you can trade trips, give away trips, or pick up trips from another pilot in a different domicile, and it's a done deal as soon as you make it happen on the computer; in other words, first come, first served.

Hope this helps,
Box

 

[Tanner]

when dropping a trip.....can you drop it out right or does another pilot have to pick it up? At my previous job we could drop to 50 hrs credit w/ out even picking up the phone to call scheduling. As long as it wasn't what they refered to as an "embargo day."

 

[ivauir]

another pilot

Another pilot has to pick it up - but that can happen pretty quick.

 

[zymotic]

Extra Flying

Would anyone in the know care to explain EF, VJA, DOT, and LITT? Do any of these pay above the TFP rate? I know first year FO's get second year pay on some of these but what about when you are a second year FO or any other year for that matter.

 

[Bake]

VJA and JA pays 1.5 times your pay rate no matter how long you have been with the company. EF and DOT and MOT pays 2nd year pay to any first year pilots. First year guys try to avoid JA and VJA because second year pay is greater than 1.5 first year pay.

BAke

 

[Snoopy58]

Bake,

For what it's worth (to any 1st year guys out there):

If you get stuck with a JA or VJA that would pay better for you as an Extra Fly (though, if it's a really small trip, you'll do better at 6.5 x first year pay than 2.0 x 2nd year pay -- JA gets all rigs, EF may not), ask scheduling if you can take it as an EF instead.

The worst they can say is no, and I've heard that frequently they're willing to do it.

Zymotic:

LITT pays straight pay, just like trading with another pilot or picking up a giveaway. For second year & beyond, EF, MOT, and DOT pay straight pay. As was mentioned, VJA & JA are always time-and-a-half. Rigs always apply to JA & VJA (though you don't get 1.5x the rig -- just 1.5x the flying, or the rig whichever is higher), and may or may not apply to the others.

It's a little complicated to explain like this; it'll make more sense when you see it in action.

Bill,

As I understand it, you get offered if you want to become -200 qualified; if you say yes, they qualify you & it's up to you to pick up enough to stay current ( 1 leg / 6 months will do). Some help available if you're having trouble picking up enough. I *think* that the non-200 guys can pick up DAL or HOU trips that don't have -200's in them, but I'm not 100% certain. If they need to do a swap, I guess they get a flag of some sort that says "nope, can't do that!" If you get here while the -200's are still an option, I'm sure they'll explain everything while you're in training.

Cheers,

Snoopy

 

[Bake]

DOT = Daily Open Time
MOT = Monthly Open Time