SWA 3yr upgrade if...

[TexaSWA]

Heard we are telling newhires in class that upgrade will be around 3yrs IF we could find all the planes we want. Sounds good for new guys. Big IF though, I guess. IF my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.

 

[328dude]

Havent' heard that one yet.

 

[ALSF 2]

Going through class now....

None of that was told in our group. In fact, upgrade was not even mentioned. I really don't think any of us care about upgrade right now. It will come when the call comes. We all know what the CURRENT upgrade time is, but like that matters in the furture!

Kind of like the funds disclaimer "Past results do not indicate future performance, invest wisely."

Cheers!

 

[Uniform Shop]

Heard we are telling newhires in class that upgrade will be around 3yrs IF we could find all the planes we want.

I was told that a few times too.

 

[PHXFLYR]

That would be great,and for the sake of all the newhires,I surly hope so,but believe it when your sitting in upgrade class at the 2 yr 11 month mark!


PHXFLYR

 

[GuppyWN]

No way.

Gup

 

[LearAv8r]

Exactly, No chance on the three year upgrade...like to know where that rumor came from......

 

[FlyBoeingJets]

Heard we are telling newhires in class that upgrade will be around 3yrs IF we could find all the planes we want. Sounds good for new guys. Big IF though, I guess. IF my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.

What you are saying is if 400 new planes get onto the property by 2009(growth plus lets say 500 retirements) the rumor will pan out.

130+ planes a year. Riiight.

Get me in on that bet....against!

 

[TexaSWA]

What you are saying is if 400 new planes get onto the property by 2009(growth plus lets say 500 retirements) the rumor will pan out.

130+ planes a year. Riiight.

Get me in on that bet....against!

Better way to figure it is on hiring plans, not planes.

operative word was IF. SWAPA calculator has me upgrading in 09 (hired in 04). Thats a conservative calculator that doesnt take into account accelerated growth plans, or, IFs.

True guys upgrading now waited 6+, but there was a 2 year period(02, 03) of no growth.

I was at a retirement party when I heard the 3 yr thing, maybe some of it was beer talking.

 

[walkthasky]

Training department is at 110%, aint happening, would be nice, but aint happening

 

[SWA GUY]

Training department is at 110%, aint happening, would be nice, but aint happening

You have to see the plans for the training dept. There will be a skybridge over the parking lot ( West side of the training center) that will connect to where the second sim building will be. Currently there is a red brick building there, but we own it and will raze it.

This is due to the problem of expanding: North (we are now as close to the runway as we can get). South (obviously the road). And East (the hangar).

Yes CURRENTLY the training dept is at 110%, until the new building is complete.

 

[FlyBarneyJets]

I'll be in PHX till the day I retire if my plan comes together. No desire to commute anywhere else aside from maybe OAK, so I'm not planning an upgrade much before the 6.5 year mark. And even that may be optimistic.

Having too much fun in the right seat anyhow.

 

[Dane Bramage]

"I was at a retirement party when I heard the 3 yr thing, maybe some of it was beer talking."

More likely it was one of the near-dead old timers having an acid flashback!

 

[SWA/FO]

Having too much fun in the right seat anyhow.

sure... enjoy the weather.

 

[FlyBarneyJets]

What, you melt in the rain or something?

Wuss.

 

[Benhuntn]

I am not leaving the right seat until they pry my cold dead fingers off the yoke. The pay raise isn't worth the loss of quality of life.

 

[DH2WN]

So now we can hold off on the age 60 rule for 3 more years.

 

[FlyBoeingJets]

Better way to figure it is on hiring plans, not planes.

I think you have the cart before the donkey. Number of Captain upgrades is based on airplanes in use (remember no spares so that means airplanes on the property) and Captain retirements.

Exception: Lances are for filling unforseen airplane purchases.


Whenever you hear (valid) "Hiring plans" they are based on--

(aircraft coming) - (aircraft to be retired) + (pilot retirements) PERIOD