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How many pilots are actually flying an airbus at FLYi and how many years have they been with the company?
 
Stupid Airline Management Quote of the day winner.....FLYi's Kerry Skeen takes top honors again!


"I think a lot of people wrote us off before the Airbuses got here, and said FLYi is broken, it doesn't work," Skeen told analysts in a conference call earlier this week. "But we just did not have the time to show at least some traction on how the A319s are doing."


Translation: All our people were busy hideing from our creditors and tap-danceing in front of accounting lawyers to make up some bogus stats. Anyway...no one was rideing on the empty things so what was the point.
 
"There have been a lot of smiles around here," Flyi Chairman Kerry B. Skeen said in an interview. This irked me when I read it. After laying off 500 pilots and however many other employees, it seems like he could have picked his words a bit better in celebration of new financing terms.
 
Originally Posted by SWABound
Dave Siegel said:
Mugs said:
Again, what government money is being flushed away by UAL right now?



It's just that United pilots are upset that independence airbus pilots are now making more money than United airbus and 737 pilots. Also they are working for an airline that cares about it's employees and customers.

I think it's called jealousy.



You're right! Just like the crew of the Titanic! As the ship is sinking, they're all looking at each other, and they're in complete disbelief. When are they going to wake up!

Classy statements gents,
let me guess, 5-6 years ago when UAL was hiring like mad, you guy's wouldn't have chopped off your left one just get an interview.

Probably not since you guy's can read tea leaves and knew that UAL and most of the legacies would be in it's present condition right?

Thankfully I know enough real SWA pilots who don't share your sentiments towards your "fellow aviators".

Good luck fella's, and yea I'm real Jealous of you guy's alright
 
Dave Siegel said:
Mugs said:
Again, what government money is being flushed away by UAL right now?



Quote:

Did UAL repay their ATSB loan? I didn't think so. Maybe that's the government money Mugs is talking about.

I'd call you a moron, but I'm better than that.


It's just that United pilots are upset that independence airbus pilots are now making more money than United airbus and 737 pilots. Also they are working for an airline that cares about it's employees and customers.

I think it's called jealousy.


Siegel, I have to believe you are joking. One of the biggest airline stories last year was United not getting the ATSB loan guarantee. If you are wondering why you have no credibility on this board, this is why. I challenge you and SWAbound to do 2 minutes worth of research, and then make corrections to your posts.
 
koko nw said:
Originally Posted by SWABound
Dave Siegel said:
Mugs said:
Again, what government money is being flushed away by UAL right now?



It's just that United pilots are upset that independence airbus pilots are now making more money than United airbus and 737 pilots. Also they are working for an airline that cares about it's employees and customers.

I think it's called jealousy.



You're right! Just like the crew of the Titanic! As the ship is sinking, they're all looking at each other, and they're in complete disbelief. When are they going to wake up!

Classy statements gents,
let me guess, 5-6 years ago when UAL was hiring like mad, you guy's wouldn't have chopped off your left one just get an interview.

Probably not since you guy's can read tea leaves and knew that UAL and most of the legacies would be in it's present condition right?

Thankfully I know enough real SWA pilots who don't share your sentiments towards your "fellow aviators".

Good luck fella's, and yea I'm real Jealous of you guy's alright

I like how you put "fellow aviators" in quotes because the majority of United pilots treat the express pilots like 3rd class citizens. I never applied 5-6 years ago. I'm not female so I would never have gotten an interview.
 
SWA BOUND SAID "I like how you put "fellow aviators" in quotes because the majority of United pilots treat the express pilots like 3rd class citizens. I never applied 5-6 years ago. I'm not female so I would never have gotten an interview"

I see know where your angst comes from. Your right out of the 3000+ hired during the "boom" of 95-99, most were women and minorities.....yaaa right.

Half my class were pure civilian backgrounds, with one count em one female. Sorry about your treatment by the "Majority" of UAL pilots towards there express carriers.

You really need to get some counseling for your bitterness dude and move on.

Good luck at SWA, a great company. I'm sure your personality will win em over during your interview.
 
I'm a former ACA United Express pilot and many months ago I was eating dinner with two United pilot friends. I was telling them a story how I was held in the "box" in ORD for an hour because United couldn't get their gate situation figured out. There were lots of United traffic delayed and the United controllers kept using our gate for United planes. The one United pilot said yeah, "You're Express, they would never do that to us." The other United pilot states, "Yeah, it's because your Express. Sorry but that's just the way it is."

I said, "Listen to yourselves. Do you realize the passengers in the back are on United? They bought a ticket from United!"

They looked at each other and realized there are more problems with United then they could possibly comprehend.

Each pilot is a good friend of mine and each admits they look at Express carriers as bottom feeders. And these are my friends.

Independence had no choice but to dump United and the above is a small example of the chasm United has gotten themselves into. I have seen first hand the United operation. The money you waste during every flight is daunting. I hope each of you remains gainfully employed but bashing Independence is the pot calling the kettle black.
 
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DH2WN,

Chicago was a pit. I did my time over there, so I can speak from first hand experience :) There were so many things wrong with that station that I'm not sure there was anything *right* with it. The terminal sucked, the infrastructure sucked, the IT system sucked, gate planning was poorly done, and staffing sucked. Did I miss anything? My biggest gripe was that UAL knew exactly what was going on, and they kept dumping more and more on ACA. What "mainline" forgot was that by having Express cause them a black eye, people avoided the UAL product period. Eagle, on the other hand, was a halfway decent operation from what I could tell. (Flew on 'em a couple of times to...)
 
DH2WN said:
I'm a former ACA United Express pilot and many months ago I was eating dinner with two United pilot friends. I was telling them a story how I was held in the "box" in ORD for an hour because United couldn't get their gate situation figured out. There were lots of United traffic delayed and the United controllers kept using our gate for United planes. The one United pilot said yeah, "You're Express, they would never do that to us." The other United pilot states, "Yeah, it's because your Express. Sorry but that's just the way it is."

I said, "Listen to yourselves. Do you realize the passengers in the back are on United? They bought a ticket from United!"

They looked at each other and realized there are more problems with United then they could possibly comprehend.

Each pilot is a good friend of mine and each admits they look at Express carriers as bottom feeders. And these are my friends.

Independence had no choice but to dump United and the above is a small example of the chasm United has gotten themselves into. I have seen first hand the United operation. The money you waste during every flight is daunting. I hope each of you remains gainfully employed but bashing Independence is the pot calling the kettle black.

I dont think any of those decisions were ment to dump on ACA. The main product( UAL's aircraft ) should never take a gate delay for the feed. Its simple math...one RJ can only have 50 pax maximum.....even the smallest mainline AC will have 130+ pax (depending on the load for that AC that day for that gate) plus the outbound load. By delaying the RJ....you are spreading the pain to the smallest group of customers possible.
 
MickeySlapnutz said:
I dont think any of those decisions were ment to dump on ACA. The main product( UAL's aircraft ) should never take a gate delay for the feed. Its simple math...one RJ can only have 50 pax maximum.....even the smallest mainline AC will have 130+ pax (depending on the load for that AC that day for that gate) plus the outbound load. By delaying the RJ....you are spreading the pain to the smallest group of customers possible.

I understand what you are saying but I was just giving one example. This was a constant at ORD. Thousands of pax a month felt this pain. If you commute enough you know the express carriers are a shambles but it's United's contracts with them that puts them in the situation. Fee for departure means who cares who is on board just get the flight out on time. I have many times been told to leave the passengers behind who were ready to get on board with 5 minutes to go to get out on time. ACA didn't care about the passenger because the customer was United and United said get out on time. We made a ton of money by not caring about the passenger but we sure cared about the customer. United got greedy and took ACA for granted and look what happened. Now they are doing it again with AWAC. AWAC is going to move on too.

Independence, while still essentially ACA, is a completely different company now with a different personality. The finances are in dissaray, like United, but the employees are really pulling to make it work. For people on here to put them down without knowing the facts is insulting. I am moving on from Independence to SWA but I truly think Independence is going to be a great company because of the caring employees they have. They have been around 6 months, give them a chance before you bury them alive.
 
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For those of you who have not yet realized it, MickeySlapNutz and "Etoper" from the yahoo boards are one in the same.

Just ignore this loser.:rolleyes:
 
Always deferred said:
For those of you who have not yet realized it, MickeySlapNutz and "Etoper" from the yahoo boards are one in the same.

Just ignore this loser.:rolleyes:

Nope. This is the only board I read and post to. Etoper is some other loser.....
Dont shoot the messanger kids. I'll post my resume below so you can see just how qualified I am:

Visionary leader. Growth-oriented. Committed to service and safety.

The story behind the vision for Stupid Management Quotes, cannot be told without first understanding the story of MickeySlapnutz.

VISIONARY
MickeySlapnutz co-founded Stupid Management Quotes 15 years ago, and since that time has seen his vision through to its ultimate potential — transforming it from a tiny thread with a few dozen posts into America's newest Stupid Management Quotes, and bringing excellent Stupid Management Quotes to communities that have been demanding greater competition and stupider quotes for years.

Hey...if it works for Kerry Skeen....then it must be good.
 
MickeySlapnutz said:
VISIONARY
MickeySlapnutz co-founded Stupid Management Quotes 15 years ago, and since that time has seen his vision through to its ultimate potential — transforming it from a tiny thread with a few dozen posts into America's newest Stupid Management Quotes, and bringing excellent Stupid Management Quotes to communities that have been demanding greater competition and stupider quotes for years.

Hey...if it works for Kerry Skeen....then it must be good.



There's a stupid management quote if I've ever seen one.
 
MickeySlapnutz said:
This is the only board I read and post to. Etoper is some other loser.....

That's the most hysterical thing I have read from you. At least, you realize you're a loser.
 
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DH2WN said:
That's the most hysterical thing I have read from you. At least, you realize you're a loser.

Thats Mr. Visionary Loser to you pal.......
 

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