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New2Flying
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I am sure this is very frustrating for the Mesaba guys and gals. It is almost more stressful to not be able to strike, as issues go on behind closed doors that you have no control over.
As a pilot who stood with our FA's outside the corporate headquarters picketing until the 11th hour, it was amazing what we saw. The CEO was in the negotiations with the FA's MEC and Negotiations Committee. He sent one of his management types to see if there was "really" picketing going on. (he was in Washington, DC) Well, the FA's were all in very distinct colors and this idiot comes down with a white shirt and a red tie!! Stuck out like a sore thumb!!
Well, the most hysterical part of this was when the FA's saw him. Now, some of them were pretty rabid, and as they were doing a candlelight vigil, they had lit candles!! One should not approach a group of people with fire!
A few of the FA's starting chasing this guy down the street. About one hour after this, it was amazing how fast management saw that they were serious and the same thing happened that did with the Mesaba strike. They did a last minute avert of the strike and then came out with a deal.
Not that I am saying that anyone should chase anyone with fire down a street - but when management found out how serious they were with the almost 700 people who were picketing that were ready to strike, they came up with a contract. Not sure if it was the best one they could have gotten if they had done a strike, but one will never know. At that point, they could not do anything because they were not released into self-help.
I wish all the pilots at Mesaba strength and I am very proud of the resolve that the pilot group has.
As a pilot who stood with our FA's outside the corporate headquarters picketing until the 11th hour, it was amazing what we saw. The CEO was in the negotiations with the FA's MEC and Negotiations Committee. He sent one of his management types to see if there was "really" picketing going on. (he was in Washington, DC) Well, the FA's were all in very distinct colors and this idiot comes down with a white shirt and a red tie!! Stuck out like a sore thumb!!
Well, the most hysterical part of this was when the FA's saw him. Now, some of them were pretty rabid, and as they were doing a candlelight vigil, they had lit candles!! One should not approach a group of people with fire!
A few of the FA's starting chasing this guy down the street. About one hour after this, it was amazing how fast management saw that they were serious and the same thing happened that did with the Mesaba strike. They did a last minute avert of the strike and then came out with a deal.
Not that I am saying that anyone should chase anyone with fire down a street - but when management found out how serious they were with the almost 700 people who were picketing that were ready to strike, they came up with a contract. Not sure if it was the best one they could have gotten if they had done a strike, but one will never know. At that point, they could not do anything because they were not released into self-help.
I wish all the pilots at Mesaba strength and I am very proud of the resolve that the pilot group has.
Capt Tex,
You have no idea what you are talking about. I doubt you were ever someone who "walked the walk" but are really good at yacking.
Whatever happens, TA or Strike this pilot group will do what is necessary. We will be the ones to either ratify or vote it down or we'll be carrying signs.
You have no idea what you are talking about. I doubt you were ever someone who "walked the walk" but are really good at yacking.
Whatever happens, TA or Strike this pilot group will do what is necessary. We will be the ones to either ratify or vote it down or we'll be carrying signs.
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I knew it, they're pussies, they'll cave in the end.
And who is this you were referring about? I hope not we, the pilot group, who have stood unified and approached this 928 day ordeal with the utmost professionalism. I am curious to know so that either its a misunderstanding on my part, or you get lumped into the mesaba2425 group.
I knew it, they're pussies, they'll cave in the end.
And who is this you were referring about? I hope not we, the pilot group, who have stood unified and approached this 928 day ordeal with the utmost professionalism. I am curious to know so that either its a misunderstanding on my part, or you get lumped into the mesaba2425 group.
WHAT planes at outstations?If I'm not mistaken, isn't Mesaba management already starting to lose it's 2 million dollars a day because of the cancelled flights? Whether the pilots are carrying the signs or waiting to, one thing is for sure, Mesaba Airlines is not operating right now. So although the deadline has passed, the management team is still paying a price. Just a thought.
T-handle
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"If I'm not mistaken, isn't Mesaba management already starting to lose it's 2 million dollars a day because of the cancelled flights? Whether the pilots are carrying the signs or waiting to, one thing is for sure, Mesaba Airlines is not operating right now. So although the deadline has passed, the management team is still paying a price. Just a thought."
We are NOT on strike at this moment. the only flights cancelled were the overnights from last night. Airplanes are up and running at this hour. Everyone is still holding their breath.... and impatiently running out of oxygen. We should know something in the next hours. Then again we said that about 11 hours ago....
We are NOT on strike at this moment. the only flights cancelled were the overnights from last night. Airplanes are up and running at this hour. Everyone is still holding their breath.... and impatiently running out of oxygen. We should know something in the next hours. Then again we said that about 11 hours ago....
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CWASaab
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I just got a call from crew scheduling, apparently all flights today are cancelled and those of us that were supposed to be at work are time available during our scheduled duty periods.
This is what I was told minutes ago however, if you are supposed to work today better hear this from CSO yourself.
So strike or no strike we are having an impact on the company. In fact, this is an even greater financial impact since they cannot furlough FAs and MX at this point.
Hold the line, check the VARS and remember: the goal is fair contract that we can be proud of.
CWASaab
This is what I was told minutes ago however, if you are supposed to work today better hear this from CSO yourself.
So strike or no strike we are having an impact on the company. In fact, this is an even greater financial impact since they cannot furlough FAs and MX at this point.
Hold the line, check the VARS and remember: the goal is fair contract that we can be proud of.
CWASaab
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Yes and no, T-Handle, heard a lot of Mesaba planes with "maintenance" call signs in CVG and MSP last night but some flights are supposed to still be operating according to Mesaba ALPA VARS.
I would be very wary of management's latest offer. After all, how many years have you been negotiating only to have this offer to be purposely presented at the witching hour? Perhaps this was their plan to deflect your fine efforts.
Best wishes.
I would be very wary of management's latest offer. After all, how many years have you been negotiating only to have this offer to be purposely presented at the witching hour? Perhaps this was their plan to deflect your fine efforts.
Best wishes.
T-handle
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After being pissed for several hours after the deadline I calmed down and slept on it. I have concluded, perhaps this is a tactic to keep management guessing. If it is, intentionally or not, it's working I suppose. It's like a President declaring war and but not rolling when everyone expects it. Or we're already at conflict without an official declaration of war and not a single shot fired yet. The other side is nervously watching from their foxholes and are confused why there are no troops are running over the hills.
This TA better be the one or I'll be the first one over the hill waving my sword and not looking back. People will be talking about this one for a while: negotiating nearly 12 hours past the deadline.
Ok this sounds corny but I got sh!t for sleep last night. Did any other Mesaba pilot else sleep a wink last night?
This TA better be the one or I'll be the first one over the hill waving my sword and not looking back. People will be talking about this one for a while: negotiating nearly 12 hours past the deadline.
Ok this sounds corny but I got sh!t for sleep last night. Did any other Mesaba pilot else sleep a wink last night?
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Just a thought here...928 days have passed since the Mesaba contract was amendable. A final deadline to settle the issues was set, down to the minute...How is it that the management can wait 927 days, and 23 hours before making any kind of settlement offer, yet the pilot group is still not on strike?! I am all for the Mesaba pilot group emotionally, and financially also, however when you create a deadline, why not stick to it?
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