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Straight from Silvestro's mouth he wants to cut Flex pilots pay

BlueNose

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I hate it, but Shane's right, it's time to bring the pain.
No OT, fly the pledge, none of those 1001 little helpful favors that they rely on us to do every day to keep things running smoothly. Screw 'em, if they want to keep playing dirty why should we go above & beyond our job description to help 'em out?

Yep, all a pilot group needs to bring any Frax management group to heel is to do exactly as they're told. Don't jump in to fix those 10-20 little disasters you see developing during the course of any tour, just do what the trip sheet and SOPs tell you to do. If anything goes wrong, wait it out and let the geniuses at the head shed fix it. Most of the folks on the other end of the phone have no idea how many times each tour the average crew dog saves a trip, from either HQ screw-ups or just those unforeseen bumps in the road that pop up every day. Just don't, and let them sort it out for a while. Your value in their eyes will go up, guaranteed.
 

doh

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In their eyes you will never have more value, but they will grudgingly give in to keep their own gravy train running.
 

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Yep. It's time to stop being great employees and only doing our job. Nothing more nothing less. NO FAVORS..If a plane has a maint discrepancy write it up where it stands I see crews all the time trying to get these things to MX bases. Remember that's ILLEGAL.. DONT DO ANYTHING ILLEGAL FOR OR AGAINST THE COMPANY.
 

GlorifiedCabbie

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Yep. Remember that's ILLEGAL.. DONT DO ANYTHING ILLEGAL FOR OR AGAINST THE COMPANY.

Shanes. I don't think you can use that phrase anymore. The company claimed the pilots were using that phrase to signal an illegal work action. I think the pilots are starting to wake up anyway. The pilots that are doing these illegal actions are putting ALL of our jobs at risk. There is no exemption for willful unlawful acts.
 

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They twist whatever they want. If in their mind telling somebody to not do anything illegal is signaling a illegal action??? That's hilarious. So if we said do something illegal would that signal a legal action????
 

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Shanes. I don't think you can use that phrase anymore. The company claimed the pilots were using that phrase to signal an illegal work action. I think the pilots are starting to wake up anyway. The pilots that are doing these illegal actions are putting ALL of our jobs at risk. There is no exemption for willful unlawful acts.

That's really f'd up...and yet kinda funny. "Don't break the law" isn't something they understand...maybe that's why "it's the everyeth time they've been proven wrong in Federal court"!!
 

shanes123

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Their the only ones that are allowed to do a illegal action. Flu season is coming. Is it illegal to get the Flu???
 

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A pilot came to observe the negotiation session, as there is an open invitation from the negotiators. From one of our Flexjet negotiators: "You should've seen the look on their faces when #### walked in and was introduced. You could've heard a pin drop. Her visit prompted a side bar discussion immediately following the session...Management won't even release the FJ-PNC members to attend without the union footing the entire bill. So next time someone Yammers and complains that Flexjet pilots aren't getting adequate or equal representation, tell them who's really preventing it."
So when you read the BS from those two yammer tools, you now know exactly what POSs they are. Only the union is giving pilots the transparency and truth.
 

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I think that they are waking up! I actually rarely run into a flex crew that does not come up to me to talk! One very important thing for them to think of is that KR is all about money. If NJ came to him with a respectable offer he would negotiate for them to use his other companies and sell Flex! There is no reason to think that they have a monopoly cause the government doesn't care about the small percentage of the wealthy that would be affected! So how would that merger go if it were to happen and we were not unionized?
 

shanes123

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I will shut up when Flex wakes up!!!

Any Flex guys wake up yet ??? Naahhh!!!!!
 
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slowtation capt

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If NJ came to him with a respectable offer he would negotiate for them to use his other companies and sell Flex! There is no reason to think that they have a monopoly cause the government doesn't care about the small percentage of the wealthy that would be affected! So how would that merger go if it were to happen and we were not unionized?


Please, please let that happen. Oh how I want that to happen so badly.
 

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KR is all about the bottom line and he has his culture at the other companies he runs. NJ would not want the old run down a/c but since he is getting rid of them it makes Flex more attractive!
 
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shanes123

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Doubt Warren would buy this turd. Why bother he's 5 times bigger, more successful, better reputation. There's nothing about flop/Flex he would want. We are not even a competitor to him. KR constantly talks about NJ you never hear NJ talking about us. Unless it's how F UP the company and pilot group is. Never happen

Any Flex guys wake up yet? Naahhhh!!!
 

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Anyone going to observe negotiations on the 23-25?
 
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